Good to hear you're thinking about patchworks - they are the opposite of patterns.

Irregular structures with irregular parts ["blobs"] (and quantities of parts) that undergo irregular transformations.

Vs

Regular structures with regular parts ["bricks"] (and quantities of parts) that undergo regular transformations -

(wh. are the stuff of geometry and maths).

The entire real world along with all forms of real world reasoning consists of patchwork structures which undergo irregular (& unpredictable) transformations

vs

the artificial, toy world of patterns where Ben & Boris have immured themselves and thrown away the key.

Just look at any photo or real world art (or the scene in front of your eyes) - patchworks, patchworks, patchworks. The plasticine real world vs the Lego artificial world.

Patchworks require a radically new realm of *creative*/"freeform" geometry, logic and maths.

N.b. "freeform geometry" = the geometry of irregular, fluid transformations.


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From: "John G. Rose" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 12:35 PM
To: "AGI" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [agi] Variables vs concepts ; analog vs mapping computers

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[email protected]]


However I suspect - and correct me here - concepts are best understood as
extremely fluid outline "MAPS" rather than "analogs" of objects and object
actions. My impression is that analog has a fairly precise meaning in
computation, which has nothing to do with fluid outline maps.

If so, that is what we ideally need - not an analog computer/robot, but a
***mapping computer** that can fluidly, loosely map the world and map its
body onto the world  -  a *retinal* computer. (The retina if you think
about it
does indeed literally fluidly and distortedly map the objects of the world
-
distortions which have to be corrected by the brain).



I think that the human brain uses input as symbols and dynamically abstracts
and operates via algebraic structure of the input... MAPS of data and
operations from instance input specifics into the generalized abstract space
of situational computational commonalities.

BTW I'm still thinking about your patchwork ideas, the wall of vagina et al
:) I've been preoccupied over the past couple months. I think with your
patchworks you are pointing at something important, the articulation of that
might be confusing with other conceptual concoctions since the space and
symbols that we are operating in must be used to describe the system itself,
causing obfuscation.

John





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