Sorry Sergio, this is not against you personally, I know you're much nicer guy than I am. It's just that... there is no there there in your theory. "Entropy", "self-organization", "causality", "emergence" are meaningless buzzwords in this context, & I am sure you will pick up more of them. I answered all your questions, even before you asked them, it's just doesn't help. You, on the other hand, refuse to explain what do you actually suggest to do with the data, other than those dumb matrix permutations & scope adjustment? What is your contribution to all that "causality", "emergence", & so on?
From: Sergio Pissanetzky Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 4:40 PM To: AGI Subject: RE: [agi] Uncertainty, causality, entropy, self-organization, and Schroedinger's cat. Boris, Funny, I thought you were avoiding any coherent analysis. I read you website where you talk about hierarchies, but you never told me what they are or how you are planning to create them or where they come from. I do approve of the hierarchies and of the way you think about them, but that's not enough. I don't recall you considering the known laws of nature, more in particular the entropy or the connections between entropy and hierarchies. If somebody asks a question from you, sometimes you just refer them to your website. In your cognitive blog, the words "entropy", "self-organization", "causality", do not even appear. And you are accusing me of avoiding coherent analysis? Where is yours? Regarding Adam, he told me he is a neuroscientist, and I believed him. What are you suggesting? Should I ask for a notarized copy of his diploma? He made an immediate contribution to my work by introducing me to Friston's work, which isalready more I can say about you. And I am not jumping on any buzzwords, I only started reading Friston and I am going to make my own judgement about its value. I don't need yours, thank you very much. Again, can we please work in a more objective way on this blog? Like leaving our personalities at home and concentrate on facts? Sergio From: Boris Kazachenko [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 9:37 AM To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] Uncertainty, causality, entropy, self-organization, and Schroedinger's cat. Adam, >My point is that there are many brilliant scientists from whom we can learn >about different aspects of the problem of how the brain produces mental >phenomena (e.g. Friston, Hawkins, Barsalou, Fuster, Edelman, Tononi, Damasio, >etc., etc.). How much time have you spent studying neuroscience? I suspect not >much, since I haven't heard you make any substantive comments on the topic. FWIW, I don't comment on neuroscience either. That's not because I don't know much, it's actually a hobby of mine, & I do have plenty of opinions (http://cognitive-focus.blogspot.com/). But I feel that the brain, & especially our current knowledge of it, is so "dirty" that discussing it is a distraction for this list. And you don't say anything substantive either, mostly just name dropping. Sergio doesn't have a clue about neuroscience, but he will jump on any buzzword you drop, as long as its fuzzy enough to avoid any coherent analysis. As you will learn shortly :). AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
