Where the disagreement arises is that these two are talking about different
levels of representation. It's the difference between use ("a dog" or "a
pattern") and mention ("the word 'dog'" or "the pattern 'pattern'"). Mike
is insisting on a strictly use-based representation, looking for common
elements *between* the patterns, and Jim is failing to point out the difference
between elements and characteristics, the characteristics of the different
patterns being the elements of the metapattern.
-Aaron
On Aug 23, 2012 7:38 AM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote:
If you want to put that mathematically, take a whole set of diverse
patterns – Koch curve, Mandelbrot, herringbone, cellular automaton etc . etc. –
and explain how the brain is able to abstract from *all of them together* and
recognize them collectively as “patterns” (and not just as Koch
curves/herringbones etc. etc).
Where’s the pattern in a set of diverse patterns, B & B? And where’s
the complexity, Jim?
that's easy, these are all obviously susceptible to lossy compression using
algorithms native to the brain...
ben
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