No, I want to build something that can tap into the knowledge & computing 
power of the internet just like we do.

As for the weaknesses of humans you list, I fail to see why they would have to 
apply to an artificial mind. Those are constraints placed on us by our 
particular implementation of intelligence. And if you don't see the utility of 
having an autonomous thinking & decision making machine, you are in denial.

Yes, the internet is extremely valuable, useful, and powerful, but there are 
plenty of niches it doesn't fill. And you already pointed out one right before 
you asked why: to automate work that humans have to do because current 
technology isn't smart enough.

I would also like to be able to talk to a machine and know that it really does 
understand my wishes and requests, which search engines don't do yet. And when 
search engines finally succeed at that, it will be because they will have 
implemented something analogous to human cognition.

Now what I'm working on isn't plugged into the internet for anyone to use like 
an (intelligent, conversational) search engine, but in order to lay the 
groundwork for such a service, people like me have to spend our time working on 
these sorts of projects. How else will we learn how to make the web truly 
intelligent? And how else will we make robots truly effective and safe, besides 
making them understand what's happening in the world around them?



On Aug 23, 2012 2:36 PM, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote: 

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:53 PM, [email protected]

<[email protected]> wrote:

>

> In other words, *we* implement the utility function. And we use it daily

> to find new ways to improve itself. I like this line of reasoning, and I

> think you're right, but it leaves me intellectually unsatisfied. I still

> want to build a true AGI, just to prove I can (and to understand how minds

> work better). Safer doesn't always mean better.



Are you really going to build something with more knowledge and

computing power than the internet? It can do a lot, but there are

still hard problems to solve in natural language, vision, robotics,

and modeling human behavior before it can automate the remaining work

still done by humans at a cost of $70 trillion per year because

machines aren't smart enough.



It seems a lot of people are still trying to build artificial human

minds. Why? Do we need to duplicate human weaknesses as well as

strengths? Do we really want machines that won't work nights and

weekends? Do we really need a 10 petaflop calculator that can only add

one digit per second with 95% accuracy? Is there a market for

artificial toddlers?



If that's not what you intend to build, then what?





-- Matt Mahoney, [email protected]





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