In some ways I tend to agree.

My general position is not that we can do better than the brain aka Ben - but that we can look, as Turing did, at the kind of problems that characterise AGI, i.e. creative problems, (the opposite of the problems Turing looked at), and analyse how those problems are - and have to be - solved by humans and real world agents, and mechanically mimic that.

However, we DO learn from neuroscience. For me personally, the greatest discovery has been mirror neurons. That is a discovery that shakes the world of psychology - although its full ramifications are still being absorbed (and still ignored by AGI-ers).

The implications of mirror neurons are v. daunting. They mean that to be truly intelligent about the world, you have to have an integrated body that can physically, integrally identify with the world. You have to have a self that can physically, integrally identify with other selves.

I think we can produce creative sub-AGI assistants that will be revolutionary much, much faster than anyone here envisages.

But machines with selves - true, self-conducting machines - as opposed to the present production lines of separate parts? They may be a v. v. long way away.

-----Original Message----- From: Anastasios Tsiolakidis
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:18 AM
To: AGI
Subject: Re: [agi] Neuroscience article on self-awareness

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Mike Archbold <[email protected]> wrote:
  I should get a neuroscience feed with a bit more
rigor.

If your neuroscience feed could change the world it would be illegal.
As someone who's spent a few years in close proximity to
neuroscientists I'd wager all 10 euro in my bank account that you
could skip the next 20 years of research and miss nothing, AGI-wise.
You'd be better off following and/or participating in AGI projects or
starting your own. As mentioned before for a mere 10 million dollars
you could even sponsor your very own "Archie AGI" project :)

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