Sergio,

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Sergio Pissanetzky
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Just look what happened to the much heralded Santa Fe Institute. They sure
> did a great deal of useful research, but they did not explain
> self-organization - their original objective - and they sure did not
> explain intelligence.
>

My assertion is that it is probably IMPOSSIBLE to understand many of the
aspects of intelligence (like self-organization) without heavy math, wet
lab experimentation, new scanning technology, and/or other
out-of-discipline research. If nothing else, the last half-century has
clearly shown that there are no easy answers, no "low hanging fruit" to
gather. Plenty of people just as smart as us have dashed their careers by
trying to "reason things out" without the advanced tools to simply examine
the solution. I have enough of a sense of history not to do the same.

Whether a research center could accomplish what lots of bright people have
failed to do remains to be seen. In the interest of claiming the
"scientific method" to arrive at an answer, we should list ALL of the
alternatives, now that we know that general intelligence is NOT an easy
problem. So, *does anyone here see OTHER approaches to dealing with such
hard problems?*

One of my fears regarding a research center is that it would be ever SO
easy to mismanage such a thing. Here are a few looming errors waiting to be
made:
1.  Proceeding with woefully inadequate funding.
2.  Putting all of the funding into a small number of high priced efforts,
while starving countless small-dollar efforts that could conceivably blow
the lid off of AI/AGI.
3.  Throwing all the money at projects promising near-term payoffs, so that
if/when they fail, the research center dies.
4.  Starving areas that the management think won't bear near-term fruit, so
there is nothing to fall back on if needed.
5.  Failing to perform any sort of competent feasibility analysis before
throwing big money at things.
6.  Heavily funding the things that the management thinks are most
important, and letting everything else starve.

There are multiple prospective goals, many ways to proceed toward each
goal, and unknown pitfalls waiting to sabotage every approach. This should
be professionally managed like any other BIG project. IBM pioneered the
technique of putting 2 or 3 teams to designing the SAME piece of critical
equipment, and selecting the "winner" at the last minute. I would expect to
see some of the same sorts of management approaches at a research center.

> ** **
>
> In the meanwhile, I am being ignored, accused, even insulted.
>

*Is there anyone on this forum who does NOT feel **ignored, accused, and
insulted?
*

> I don't care. I am right, the others are wrong. And this is all that
> maters.
>

*Is there anyone on this list who does NOT believe that they are right, and
that is all that matters?*

Such is the price of greatness.

Steve



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