Building on what Stan said, you can also substitute "case" for reason as well. Rules or cases, either will do. Jean Piaget talks about Differentiation and Integration as the hallmarks of intelligence. Douglas Hofstadter has done a lot of work with analogy (which is one form of integration). Simple Crossover (from classifier systems) is another form of integration. PAM-P2 takes both approaches, having an analogizer component to perform concept substitution according to specified "rules",as well as concept invention by means of crossover during regulation (the regulator component governs this). There are many ways to achieve integration though. The real trick is differentiation. Cheers! ~PM. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:42:42 -0600 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [agi] Simplistic Test of Reason-Based Reasoning > > Greetings Jim. > my reaction to a couple statements contained below - > > > On 09/14/2012 08:06 AM, Jim Bromer wrote: > > > > > > I was wondering if a simple system of reason based reasoning could be > > used to start an expanding system of knowledge acquisition. I am not > > talking about a human-level AGI program. I am talking about a very > > simple, very artificial system to test the viability and the flexibility > > of the reason-based reasoning strategy for general learning. > > stan: I like the beginning line, especially the word "simple." A > bootstrap kind of program is exactly what is needed. > > To stick with the simple description, I would avoid the word "reason" > and put in "rule." e.g. can a simple rule based system start an > expanding system - expanding by virtue of it's acquiring facts and > rules. More about this below. > > > > Reason-based reasoning is just a strategy in which analysis and response > > to a situation is based on reasons which the AGI program can access. > > rules no? > > > .... <section removed > > > > > So my question is whether or not reason-based reasoning can be used > > effectively in a simplistic system to enable the program to make good > > reactions based on what it had learned. But I do not fully understand > > how human beings are able to adeptly recognize and react to complicated > > situations. > > stan: Would it be fair to rephrase this question? Something like " can > one build a simple rule based system that will make good choices based > on rules and facts it has acquired?" > > If so, it seems obvious that the system can only operate on rules and > facts acquired. > > The bigger question is can the system take a fact or rule gathered from > it's experience in the environment and place it where it's rule > processor finds it at the right time? What are the rules that tell the > system how to utilize this 'mined' knowledge? > > simple huh? > > > > > Analysis and reactions do not only act on some form of output. They can > > govern the analysis and reaction modes as well. > > stan: True, the "output" could simply be a state change in the > analyzer. This often is the case when writing a program - branch on a > condition... > > ... portions removed > > > > One problem that I do not completely understand is how concepts are > > integrated. Reason-based reasoning will help but it does not explain > > everything. I am thinking about starting with a primitive artificial > > language to make the program work a little like a programming method. > > However, with reason-based reasoning that is able to act on recognition > > and reaction methods there is no reason why I could not experiment with > > language acquisition. > > > stan: If the goal is to understand how concepts are integrated, put on > the designer hat and say "how would I design a system that can integrate > concepts?" What do the players look like? > "Concepts" is a bit nebulous to me. More concrete might be something > like " how are rules and facts integrated in the system I am designing?" > > take care... > Stan > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/19999924-5cfde295 > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
