Matt, Your answer is confusing. We're only talking here about language not the whole of AGI. And you - along with many if not most others - do talk of language mainly as textual processing, no matter whether you understand it as more than that.

I'm striving here to get the best definition of what language use entails - and to correct the insanity of so many AGI-ers' approach to language (including Ben's).

Defining it as EMBODIED SIMULATION (/ENACTING) of language/CONCEPTS strikes me - at this point in time - as a useful corrective to the TEXTUAL PROCESSING/DECODING philosophy of language.

-----Original Message----- From: Matt Mahoney
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:41 PM
To: AGI
Subject: Re: [agi] OpenCog and ontologies

Mike, I realize that AGI is more than just language understanding.


On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]> wrote:

Matt: "This
seems counter-intuitive, given that it's only text. The problem is not
well understood. Why is it that a human brain sized neural network
requiring a 10 petaflop computer can apparently only add numbers at a
rate of about one digit per second?"

If you persist in thinking of language/conceptual thinking as processing
"TEXT," you have a massive & farcical problem.

If you recognize it instead as "full bodied SIMULATION of complex courses of
action in a fraction of the time", then it's not so hard to see why it
requires an extraordinary amount of cerebral and corporal space and energy,
is it?

e.g.

GO TO THE KITCHEN

can only be understood by full-bodied simulation.

And a near instantaneous reply like

I CAN'T GO THIS WAY  - I'LL HAVE TO GO ROUND THE BACK

is a wonder not of text processing, but of simulation.


-- Matt Mahoney, [email protected]


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