Jim,
For diagrams: Visio, or MindJet.
Apart from that, are you considering deep structure relations, as
opposed to surface structure (language).
For Example, from the YKY "Concept Composition Logic" paper:
"John believes Mary Loves John."
Ok, so as a surface structure relation, that's straightforward.
But the deep structure is: Why does John believe that Mary Love John? Is
it the way she talks to him, the way she touches him, the way she laughs
at his jokes, etc. What evidence does John think means that Mary Loves John.
"John believes Mary Loves John" implies John has a model of what Love
looks like, and has seen some of that in Mary's relations to him. This
model and evidence is the deep structure. And the evidence that produced
the model is an even deeper structure.
Did he get that model by watching his parents' behavior toward each
other, or watching TV shows, or reading romance novels, or what his
friends told him, etc.? There is no right answer to what is "love" --
it's a vague concept that different people can disagree on without a
definitive answer. And many human concepts are like that (loyalty,
bravery, cowardice, morality, etc).
On 10/7/2012 7:56 PM, Jim Bromer wrote:
I don't have a diagram and I would not know how to draw one. The idea
is that a great deal of information can be related to different kinds
of concepts that might be considered central to some idea. I have
figured out a way that I should be able to experiment with the idea
using concrete examples expressed with simple language. This
experiment will not be a true AGI program but it should allow me to
see if the structural conceptual networks idea is feasible as a way to
represent an AGI program.
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Piaget Modeler
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Diagrams Jim,
Diagrams.
~PM
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Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:07:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [agi] Conceptual Structure?
From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
I forgot about conceptual structure itself. Conceptual structure
is based on the idea that structure in language is vital to
understanding language, and that structure in ideas must also be
understood to understand the ideas. For instance temporal
structure is often important and so is positional structure. But
when you think about it these two kinds of relationships are only
concepts. While they seem to have a wide application to many
different kinds of things they are still only concepts. This
shows that concepts may play different kinds of roles when used
with other concepts. This insight seems obvious to me but it also
seems obviously important. If you can find that certain concepts
can take on the role of an abstracting or generalizing agent then
doesn't this imply that other concepts might also take on roles
that go beyond their surface characteristics? For example, the
position of an object is what it is. To recognize that position
and relative position might be used to create highly generalized
principles that have advanced mankind's understanding of matter
and technology is to recognize that a seemingly dull feature of a
concept can be used as an agent of insight. So then I am saying
that by exploring the roles and structures of concepts I expect to
find other activating principles of insight that may have eluded
us so far.
Jim Bromer
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