Thanks for the statistics, I sighed with relief that I am not among the top posters! Now, the bottom line methinks is that, as much as all those categories in your forum are nice, I would probably prefer the more cross-disciplinary format we get here, so basically just topic with optional tagging for those inclined to contribute to the semantic web. A "perfect" hybrid should be easily possible, though I haven't ever set one up. Perhaps a coder with time in his hands can "force" a hybrid by uploading and even classifying the list archive to a forum, sounds like something that may have been done before.
That our community here is, hmm, sub-par, can't be denied, but just like with the overall AGI objective we know it is a long haul so we just keep hanging on there, and hope to inspire a fistful of decent people per year. What else is there to do when you're broke LOL AT On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Todor Arnaudov <[email protected]> wrote: > > Aaron> I like the emails because they're easier on my phone. I don't > always have a computer > >handy, and trying to type into a teeny text box on a webpage on my phone > would probably be > >more pain than it's worth. I do like the idea of a forum better when I'm > not restricted to my phone, > >though. > > John>The problem with some forums and hybrids is the creepage of > extraneous eye > >candy and advertisements that distract without enriching. That's the > key. > >Simplistic yet enabling. Some of us want to communicate with newer media > >mechanisms. > > There are no ads in the basic PHPBB, it's clean. > > http://twenkid.com/img/agi-forum640.jpg > > Aaron, why should you write on the tiny screen immediately, you may do it > once you have a more convenient device at hand. That way you could consider > your comment better, too. > > I think another reason for the usage of this medium is the negligible > amount of active users and the limited amount of topics - they can't fill a > well developed forum with many categories. If there was a decent amount of > users and variety of topics covered, the emails would have exploded. > > I did a quick & dirty statistics recently, for example this month up to a > few days ago, the users were: > > *95 messages in total* > > hosford [19] > ben [16] goertzel [16] > tintner [14] blueyonder [14] [52%] > ... > *Three users made 52% of the activity* > > piagetmodeler [11] > jimbromer [10] [73%] > twenkid [8] [82%] > > *Six users = 82 %* > ... > generic [5] intelligence [5] > abramdemski [3] > justcamel [2] [90/95] =* 95%* > * > Nine users = 95%* > > *[I haven't counted the number of threads]* > *...* > > surow [1] attglobal [1] > steve [1] richfield [1] > amara [1] kurzweilai [1] > identi [1] > agrimes [1] speakeasy [1] > sokratis dk [1] [1] > nuzz [1] > > *[16 users in total]* > > *For October it's a bit better after the first 55%, generated by just 4 > users:* > > > > > 389 1 tintner [74] 74 74 0,1902313625 2 hosford [52] 52 126 0,323907455 > 3 jimbromer [45] 45 171 0,4395886889 4 piagetmodeler [44] 44 215 > 0,5526992288 5 ben [24] 24 239 0,6143958869 6 jazzbox [19] 19 258 > 0,6632390746 7 johnrose [17] 17 275 0,706940874 8 steve [15] 15 290 > 0,7455012853 9 agrimes [10] 10 300 0,7712082262 10 twenkid [9] 9 309 > 0,794344473 11 wallace [7] 7 316 0,8123393316 12 surow [5] 5 321 > 0,8251928021 13 clarkd [5] 5 326 0,8380462725 14 intelligence [4] 4 330 > 0,8483290488 15 juno [4] 4 334 0,8586118252 > > In February: > > 2/2012, 145 > > mattmahoneyfl [24] > tintner [20] blueyonder [20] [44] > jimbromer [15] [59] > tim [11] tt [11] [70] > agrimes [11] speakeasy [11] [81] == 56% > .... > > brilanon [8] [89] > sokratis [7] [96] > twenkid [5] [101] > jazzbox [5] [106] > johnrose [5] [111] > mentifex [4] [115] == 79% > > > So, even in those "better" distributions 4-5 users make > 50% and ~10 > users make 80%. > > > > ** Todor "Tosh" Arnaudov ** > * > -- Twenkid Research:* http://research.twenkid.com > > -- *Self-Improving General Intelligence Conference*: > http://artificial-mind.blogspot.com/2012/07/news-sigi-2012-1-first-sigi-agi.html > > *-- Todor Arnaudov's Researches Blog**: * > http://artificial-mind.blogspot.com > > > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Todor Arnaudov <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> >> > Email lists are nice because they're better at nudging folks >> >to participate, by making messages intrusively land in their inbox... >> >> IMO the email-list convenience is a made-up excuse for bad habits and >> laziness - some may claim that they use dial-up Internet via 33.6 ISA modem >> with IE3 on a 486DX 133, that's why they prefer emails. >> >> IMHO any forum is more convenient, especially for reading and for >> following particular fields of interests, and also it's not true >> that receiving all the messages in your mailbox is strictly desirable - >> sometimes there's a lot of spam, I myself unsubscribed a long time ago. >> >> Every forum has subscriptions for notifications on the email for answers >> (I guess also new topics) (e.g. PhpBB), one can follow a thread or a >> category etc. (and receive notifications only for what he cares about). >> >> ... >> As of sending through the email - what's that harder about a forum? Login >> once, keep logged in if lazy, one or a few clicks on a topic, "reply" etc. >> Put an icon of the forum in your start-page of the browser, make the page >> to start with your browser (or one of your browsers) - and you won't forget >> to check it, if that's the issue. >> >> Besides, a lot of the communication here is like in a chat - a few lines, >> the ones who make more efforts are often ignored or answered in a few lines >> - there are probably supposed to be crazy to write that much. >> >> *IMHO the "inconvenience" of a forum is just an excuse for a very low >> commitment or interest.* >> >> You know, I've created an AGI forum with carefully designed categories*more >> than an year ago >> *, there are even multi-language categories and categories for different >> level of expertise. I have mentioned it here several times - the >> interest is close to 0, a few fellow Bulgarian AGI-guys joined, I've used >> it a few times, but no body else uses it actively and I stopped posting >> there, too. >> >> *Scalable Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) Forum - Self-Improving >> General Intelligence (SIGI) >> >> * >> *-- Independent Scalable AGI and SIGI Society Forum - Created & >> Maintained by Todor Arnaudov (Alpha Version) >> >> * >> http://research.twenkid.com/forum/index.php >> >> There are neither people, nor interest, and it's about lack of commitment >> and no real interest in AGI, people care for their boring university >> courses, jobs etc. >> >> Otherwise if it's technically hard for the AGI guys to use a forum (and >> that's their excuse for not using it) - well, perhaps that's the reason >> why many of them still believe intelligence is a mystery. >> >> ** Todor "Tosh" Arnaudov ** >> * >> ... 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