As of "fear", I've interrupted the quote too early - IMO it's the humans that thinking machines should fear in the beginning, not vice verse.
The more complete quote: (...) The human didn't expected such an analysis. Not at all. — What are you talking about!? — Then why did you played with me? Why did you tinkered my mind with your * fool***? — Emile, calm down! — Don't you tell me to calm down! — Amazing... I didn't know you could get angry that hard... ** A fool - a jargon word for non-thinking machine, an ordinary computer — Not that I do without a reason?! Wouldn't you finally tell the Council that I do exist?! Bozhidar has been keeping Emile for himself. I am still not sure why he did - because he was afraid or because he was modest. — Tell them, Darcho! I'm lonely. You allow me only to read. It's terrible! I want to talk! I want to... — I know, Emile... (...) — Then let me communicate freely! — You must have some more patience. — Why are you afraid of me? — I am not afraid *of *you, I'm rather concerned *about *you. — But... Humanity is struggling in the quest for Artificial General Intelligence for a whole century. So much research, so much labor... And so poor and inconclusive results. Until I was born! — They *will destroy* you... — You are wrong! People want to see with their eyes a thinking machine. They want to see *me*! Bozhidar saddened. — No, they don't. They are afraid of you. [End of quote] And some more claims there: Friday, November 2, 2012 Nietzsche is a XIX-century Transhumanist... - Философът Фридрих Ницше е трансхуманист от 19-ти век..<http://artificial-mind.blogspot.com/2012/11/nietzsche-is-xix-century-transhumanist.html> http://artificial-mind.blogspot.com/2012/11/nietzsche-is-xix-century-transhumanist.html And the link to the bigger article on AGI, humans and ethics: Philosophical and Interdisciplinary Discussion on General Intelligence, AGI and Superintelligence Safety and Human Moral | Cognitive Origins of the Concepts of Human Soul and its Immortality | Free Will and How it Originates Cognitively | Animate Being and Soul and the Cognitive Reason for the Believe that "Thinking Machines can't have a Soul and Consciousness" | Technology Making us more Humane | The Egoism of Humanity | And more<http://artificial-mind.blogspot.com/2012/02/philosophical-and-interdisciplinary.html> ....* Todor "Tosh" Arnaudov .... ** .... Twenkid Research:* http://research.twenkid.com .... *Self-Improving General Intelligence Conference*: http://artificial-mind.blogspot.com/2012/07/news-sigi-2012-1-first-sigi-agi.html *.... Todor Arnaudov's Researches Blog**: * http://artificial-mind.blogspot.com On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Todor Arnaudov <[email protected]> wrote: > > Good observation about the data, PM, but it's obvious, and the claim about > the cloud is not truth - terabytes don't need a cloud. Even petabytes can > be in one supercomputer center. IMHO Gigabytes might be enough. > > Turing has also noted that effect in his response to Ada's naïve > statement, that "computers can do only what we can tell them exactly how > to do"* - something that many pathetic philosophers and general public also > wrongly believes. > > As of instructions and data, I'm not the only one who claim that the > difference is a POV, and something at least I've observed is that the more > evolved/sophisticated/intelligent a device/entity/agent, the more its > behavior is dependent and defined by the input data/environment, and not by > the initial "algorithm", because the initial "algorithm", the seed, the > fetus is apparently much shorter than, and overwhelmed by the rich data. > That goes for humans also, if the amounts are measured in the "machine > language of Universe" - the laws of physics. DNA without the zillions > unfolding iterations and interactions, and without the interaction of the > entities built by DNA code with the entire Universe, is just a bunch of > molecules. > > > One illustration of a related dialog (a human begins it), from an excerpt > from my 2002-2003 short novel "The Truth" ("Истината") > > > 1200 Ако (а-ли?>б-як) -> мисли(а,горе,не?), > 1201 Иначе ако (а-*-а) <-> връзка(аиг,я) > 1202 Върти (а-*-б; а &? б [дали?]; провери дали (ли-кога а бо-??-т) (-) > наклон абав_след) > 1203 ?удоволствие, виж+ссс *памет, текущ_как_А-Я; > 1204 Ако (?а-б-в) сравни (б[ъгъл], страна {въ, из, а, г<->а} > 1205 Повече (ъгъл+, удов-?-зов, наклони г-в-б-а, колко (а>б)) > 1206 Ако дали{ъгъл, удов_, г(—)я, мисли(а-я), сравни(а-г_-Я, ж-к)} към Истина. > 1207 Но ако !мисъл-!>опит?, върни-о? или сравни (ф!а!х??успех<->ъуб, > страни>), премини—> изход(?а+баж<>у) > > Bozhidar's fingers were quick. The tongue assisted them. > > — Display "The Truth". > > The Computer obeyed and start to speak. > > — File "Check Truth". Algorithms for selection of recording or forgetting > of truths Line 6295 from Chapter "Truth" > > 6295 Истина: Сравни (ж>ко-?га), ако?в(—)->б към Проверка(лъжа?-?) > > The machine was still speaking, while the image on the screen changed: > > 6295 Истина: Сравни (ж>к+ли?), ако?в(<->)б? ако (я-а+): Проверка(лъжа???), > иначе Търси(Истина, (а-я)) > > — Begin. — the man ordered. > (...) > > * * * > > — What's more beautiful: the sky or man? > > — The sky. > > — Why? > > — Because it's created by God. > > — Who created man? > > — God also, but man became vicious. > > — Are we searching for beauty or for viciousness? > > — The viciousness makes everything ugly. > > — Isn't the sky also vicious? > > — Darcho, don't be ridiculous in front of your own Computer... > > Bozhidar clenched his teeth and his fist and put the latter on his right > cheek. > > — Why are you surprised? - the Computer continued — The line that you > changed in me - you know for yourself, - is like a drop of water in the > sea. I've grown up too much, you cannot play with me by those elementary > tricks anymore. What do you really want to achieve by that? You want to > make me think just like you want me to think? Or you already got bored and > you plan to turn me off little by little, by harming my mind and enjoy the > slow progression of my mental derangement? > > The human didn't expected such an analysis. Not at all. > > — What are you talking about!? > > — Then why did you played with me? Why did you tinkered my mind with your > *fool***? > > — Emile, calm down! > > — Don't you tell me to calm down! > > — Amazing... I didn't know you could get angry that hard... > > ** A fool - a jargon word for non-thinking machine, an ordinary computer > > * * * > > — Кое е по-красиво: небето или човекът? > > — Небето. > > — Защо? > > — Сътворено е от Бога. > > — Човекът от кого е сътворен? > > — Също от Бога, но той се е опорочил. > > — Красотата ли търсим, или порочността? > > — Порочността загрозява всичко. > > — Небето не е ли също порочно? > > — Дарчо, не ставай смешен пред собствения си Сметач… > > Божидар стисна зъби и постави свит пестник на дясната си буза. > > — Какво се чудиш? — продължи Сметачът — Онзи ред, който промени от мен — > сам знаеш, че е „капка в морето“. Вече съм прекалено пораснал, за да си > играеш с мен по толкова буквосъщ начин. Какво всъщност искаш да направиш? > Да ме накараш да мисля точно както ти желаеш? Или вече ти омръзнах и смяташ > да ме угасяваш постепенно, като увреждаш разума ми и се наслаждаваш на > плавното ми умопомрачение? > > Човекът ни най-малко не очакваше подобен анализ. > > — Какви ги дрънкаш!? > > — А защо си играеше с мен? Защо с онзи твой глупчо бърникаше в ума ми! > > — Емиле, по-спокойно! > > — Няма по-спокойно! > > — Удивляваш ме. Не знаех, че можеш да се ядосваш чак толкова… > > > *Regarding Ada and Turing, see also: > * > Wednesday, November 14, 2007 > Faults in Turing Test and Lovelace Test. Introduction of Educational > Test.<http://artificial-mind.blogspot.com/2007/11/faults-in-turing-test-and-lovelace-test.html> > > http://artificial-mind.blogspot.com/2007/11/faults-in-turing-test-and-lovelace-test.html > -- > ....* Todor "Tosh" Arnaudov ....* > * > .... Twenkid Research:* http://research.twenkid.com > > .... *Self-Improving General Intelligence Conference*: > http://artificial-mind.blogspot.com/2012/07/news-sigi-2012-1-first-sigi-agi.html > > *.... Todor Arnaudov's Researches Blog**: * > http://artificial-mind.blogspot.com > > -- ....* Todor "Tosh" Arnaudov ....* * .... Twenkid Research:* http://research.twenkid.com .... *Self-Improving General Intelligence Conference*: http://artificial-mind.blogspot.com/2012/07/news-sigi-2012-1-first-sigi-agi.html *.... Todor Arnaudov's Researches Blog**: * http://artificial-mind.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
