Logan, You’re thinking of converting words into more words, here?
How do the words translate into a physical course of action? How (i.e. in what forms of representation) would an infant AGI think that hadn’t yet learned language, when it say wants to “go across the room”... crawl, roll, whatever across the carpet to a toy? How do you get from “go” to its first and subsequent movements of limbs? Bear in mind, that the same wish – the same formulation – could apply to the infant in vastly diverse physical situations - initial physical positions llike lying, sitting, lying on side, standing against some object etc - and vastly different room configurations. From: Logan Streondj Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:51 AM To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] Internal Representation how i'm currently implementing is a bit more rigorous, where it's more based on the case-grammar, so means result, here is a better story illustration: the go story get your from position so source. get your to position so destination. plot from current to destination so course. if course distance is short length then walk so method. if course distance is medium length then bike so method. if course distance is long length then automobile so method. do use method from source to destination by course. do recognize your arrival at destination as completion. story end this would be an ideal story of course, currently HSPL word-order is different, and i'm still working on sequential story execution, though this should get the general idea across. On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Logan Streondj <[email protected]> wrote: On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]> wrote: Logan:. The representation needs to support activation. imperative statements, like do this or that! Just trying to understand you here. Do you mean by “activation” - “putting into action” ? yes So “go to the kitchen” , you would say, “activates” the course of action of going to the kitchen (pace the Woz test) ? Right? actually it would be "do go to the kitchen" that activates or is imperative, wheras "ya go to the kitchen" is declarative or passive. How then do you see the *internal representation* of words, such as “go to the kitchen,” translating into external courses of action? You could have some internal programs or stories, that would be interpreted in order to perform actions. So for instance going could be mean multiple things, though a simple story or program of getting there would be. the go story get your current position. get your destination position. plot a course from current to destination. if short distance then walk is method. if moderate distance then bike is method. if long distance then transport is method. use method from current position to destination position. recognize arrival at destination. story end If for instance this robot AGI was mobile and powered by some fuel food that it kept or prepared in kitchen, when it ran low, it would look at what it's options are, one of which could be to go to kitchen. If it chose to go to kitchen then it could tell itself "do go to kitchen" and it would go through the go story to get there. From: Logan Streondj Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 5:01 PM To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] Internal Representation well I heard more recent research actually pegged short-term memory around 4, and that's the same as there are working registers in intel assembly , ax, bx, cx, dx. Internal representation can be done like we humans do it, with human language. quo 1. The representation needs to support activation. quo te imperative statements, like do this or that! quo 2. The representation needs to support relationships (patterns among elements). quo te you be similar to so and so by these features. quo 3. The representation needs to support reification. quo te Yes, programs can be treated as data, just as sentences can be instructions or information. quo As long as the representation does that, I'm satisfied. quo te I'm glad you agree :-) On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Piaget Modeler <[email protected]> wrote: Insightful idea. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:05:43 -0600 Subject: Re: [agi] Internal Representation From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Working memory, anyone? Maybe the fact that working memory is limited to about 7 items at a time isn't a weakness in the design of the brain. Maybe it's a feature with the purpose of limiting complexity. AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
