On 25 December 2012 03:31, Steve Richfield <[email protected]>wrote:
> Ben, > > On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>> However, I still believe that function needs to be learned or >>> discovered, rather than programmed. >>> >> >> I think that's too crude of a dichotomy.... Every digital AGI is >> program, and an analog AGI would be wired together by humans.... So there >> will always be some "programming" for any engineered intelligence. I'm >> unclear where you are trying to draw the line between "programming the >> ability to learn X" versus "programming a bias regarding how to do X", >> since every finite-resources learning algorithm has some intrinsic >> biases.... But I suspect that if you did articulate where you are trying >> to draw that line, I would want to draw it somewhere else ;) >> > > I'm not so sure. Some things are "built in", like our 4-D world and our > 2-D eyes into it. Within that world are objects, some of which are fixed > and some of which are not. > Well, that, and the architecture of the cerebrum and the cerebellum, which is programmed in our DNA. Dogs also have these same brain structures, but if you could keep a dog alive for a million years, it still would not learn to be as intelligent as us. Perhaps you might find a way to increase the number of neurons in a dog's brain 10-fold; but this is hardly a guarantee of increased intelligence. I suspect you'd most likely just have some psychotic or schizophrenic bowl of neurons. As to a "secret sauce" .. well be careful, they way you describe it makes it sound like a philosophers stone, or maybe some argument between Sheldon and Amy. So Sheldon might say that all we need is to understand the grand unified theories of particle physics and all of the rest of the universe follows, since brains are made of atoms. In practice, we know that knowing the "secret sauce" of atoms does not explain brains. Amy would point out that discovering some "secret sauce" of some low-level machine learning algo is not going to lead to AGI. -- Linas ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
