Steve Richfield wrote:
There is a particular religious belief that it may be possible to
build a super-intelligent machine that will solve civilization's
problems. I have seen NOTHING to support either that it is possible to
build such a machine, or that if it existed, it could do significantly
better than talented people.
The current claim is that the AGI would simply do things faster, by
throwing more hardware at it. This is at last somewhat plausible. There
is a convincing case that significant boosts to intelligence are
possible, for example expanding the short term memory "stack" from 5-7
items up to 20-or so items would dramatically improve the efficiency of
a given mind.
I have previously posted how it is possible to propel the IQs of some
people into the ether. Sure, these people are REALLY intelligent, but
how can simple intelligence ever predict the operation of "broken
computer" mentalities like a majority of the population has?
broken computer --> too true. =~(
There is an irrational belief that MUCH more intelligence would
somehow punch through the present barriers. Given the limited
bandwidth of observability, I see NO reason to believe this.
AGIers would bet the future of the world on a wish with nothing to
support it, rather than tackle the problems at hand. Those SAME
problems now block significant funding of AGI.
Are you talking to me? I was very careful, in this thread, to talk only
about the most mundane AGI issues, vision, perception, GF level AI...
I'm pretty sure that I've never tried to elevate an AGI to deity
status... Actually I'm kinda working on such a story but the AI
certainly doesn't do it magically and not until after a very long
process of development.
Continuing...
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Alan Grimes <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We're talking about AGI, not classical engineering.
It's not science, because AGI has rejected SO much of science, e.g.
the scientific method.
It's not engineering, so it can never be made.
It's a religion.
Steve
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so there's no defined "problem" as such but rather a completely
open-ended things we expect AGI to be able to do and things we
wish AGI might be able to do. Like I could say that I want AGI to
be my sexy cyborg GF... But then we are talking about a problem
that can only be described in poetry (an art which I should not
even attempt).
So therefore we use the terminology adopted by neural science
textbooks, to talk in terms of capabilities. For example we say
the AI should have the faculty of vision and should be able to
stabilize vision through the use of accelerometer feedback. (which
is what the vestibular system does and why we are capable of
getting dizzy). -- that's a capability. So we do our best to list
these capabilities...
Once we have capabilities we can then specify general parameters
for responses/personality, etc... My previous post was an attempt
to outline a system that should develop most of the capabilities
we care about.
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