This is *half* about what I’ve been saying for years. AGI is about “CREATIVITY BY IDEAS” ... but do not tell it exactly what to do (thus saving billions of years of programming labour)------------------ And we have been trying to tell you - for years - is that many of us have recognized that creativity is necessary for AGI long before we ever read anything by you. But, intelligence also requires rational methods of some kind. The use of rational methods is not the same as "telling it exactly what to do," or pre-programming it for every kind of particular situation that the program could be expected to encounter. I really do not understand why this is so difficult for you to accept. We differ because I think that creativity and rationality are necessary for genuine intelligence and you think that rationality has no place in intelligence. And that explains why you are wrong. Jim Bromer From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [agi] AI startup Neurala Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:46:41 +0100
This is *half* about what I’ve been saying for years. AGI is about “CREATIVITY BY IDEAS” as opposed to narrow AI “RATIONALITY BY FORMULAE/ALGOS” you give your robot a brief GENERAL IDEA/OUTLINE of a complex course of action: e.g. “GO TO THE KITCHEN”– or as here GO FIND BOB/THE OBJECT but do not tell it exactly what to do (thus saving billions of years of programming labour) - the total opposite of the narrow AI, TM approach – which is to provide a FORMULA/ALGORITHM detailing a complete STEP-BY-STEP course of action and telling the robot exactly what to do (hugely expensive in programmers’ time) And the robot then improvises/creates a NEW, DIFFERENT course of action for the first time (CREATIVE) - the complete opposite of narrow AI robots which iterate the SAME OLD courses of action for the nth time (RATIONAL/ROUTINE) I’m pretty sure this project ain’t it, but like Brooks’ Baxter robot it is moving a step closer to true AGI/ ACI (Artificial Creative Intelligence) and the final destination is inevitable. All the GOFAI projects like Ben’s et al’s should wake up and smell the GO TO THE KITCHEN coffee. From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:45 PM To: AGI Subject: [agi] AI startup Neurala http://www.kurzweilai.net/neurala-to-turn-robots-into-adaptive-learning-beings AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
