Don't feel bad. It took evolution 10^50 molecular operations over 3.5 billion years to figure it out.
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote: > Nearly 11 months ago I made the claim that I thought that I had AGI > all figured out. I did not make my claim to brag about my > accomplishments but to demonstrate the inanity of such claims. I do > feel that I have it figured out, but that only means that I am at the > next stage of a long process. I said that if someone had it all > figured out that he should be able to get a demo working within a > year. However, I then modified that statement because we do have to > give researchers, even amateur researchers, especially amateur > researchers, some leeway. So then, if I had it all figured out, I > really should be able to have some kind of demo in 2 years. I also > pointed out that if 5 months went by and I was still working on the > basics and had not even started working on the AI part then that would > be a pretty sure sign that I did not have it all figured out. > Doubling that time to 10 months makes sense since we should give > researchers some leeway. And I also added that since things, like > illnesses or situations can interfere with your time that issues like > that should also be taken into account. And indeed, I had both > illnesses and family situations that really interfered with my work. > So anyway, taking that all into account, I do feel comfortable > declaring that if I haven’t started working on the AI part by the end > of this month then that is a pretty good sign that I did not (and > presumably still do not) have AGI all figured out. Well, it does not > look too likely that I will start doing any AI stuff by the end of > next week, so I really have to give up on the attitude that I have it > all figured out. I do have some good ideas, I am working hard on my > program, and I will be able to start testing my AI ideas out early > next year. So I can say that I am testing my ideas out (I am working > on the facility to test them out) and that I have some sophisticated > ideas to work with. But the attitude that I have it all figured out > is not a reality and thankfully I do not waste much time with that > kind of ego-driven delusion. > > I do have some feelings that other people have it wrong. I don’t see > any reason to deny that. I have heard a lot of theories that were put > forward without reasons or with insubstantial reasons (like some > shallow ad hominem denouncement that is repeated ad nauseam) or with > some cherry-picked reasoning that is always advanced without examining > alternative views. But that does not mean that I can realistically > dismiss other people’s AGI theories. Since I don’t have it all figured > out I have to keep an open mind when someone can talk about something > that makes some kind of sense in programming terms. > -- > Jim Bromer > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/3701026-786a0853 > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com -- -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
