Integration of these algorithms is the key. Having a platform for integration, that is. ~PM
> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 02:29:25 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [agi] Hardware overhang. > > om > > Tonite me wanna mumble about the issue of hardware overhang that we're > now facing. > > One long-standing worry in AGI research is that if the date of it's > development is delayed too long then, once it is developed, that it > would quickly become vastly superhuman before it could be > studied/debugged/understood/controlled, etc. > > Have a look at: http://www.cryengine.com/ > > This is what our current hardware can do, if it weren't being programmed > by the chimps who make desktop applications. A top-end graphics card can > crank that out in ultra-high resolution at up to 60fps... > > So, who among you is going to stand up and state a serious case that > what we have now in a high-end desktop or a $15k compute-optimized > server isn't anywhere close to achieving human intelligence? > > One issue is the uploader's mentality. They derive their estimates for > general AI from their estimates for brain emulation. As I've said many > times before, and here again, A pure AGI architecture will be several > orders of magnitude more efficient than any conceivable brain emulation, > except those that have been abstracted so far that there is barely even > the most tenuous resemblance to the original. Superhuman AI will be > available at least a decade before mind uploading and mind uploading > cannot result in a superhuman mind (without violating the premise on > which the argument in favor of identity is based). > > The reason brain emulation is so expensive is that it is trying to > emulate synaptic junctions when the actual unit of functionality is the > neural ensemble (on the order of a few hundred neurons). It is difficult > to quantify the information content of neural signalling but the key is > that it takes dozens of neurons to communicate just a single scalar > value. The brain does things that way because of the uncertainties of > the metabolic environment and the necessity of maintaining extremely > high reliability over the lifetime of the individual, irrespective of > the life-cycles of the individual cells. > > Modern computers operate on very different principles and therefore can > only be compared to neural circuits in the broadest outlines. > > Just about every area of the brain that has been reverse engineered to > the point where we can say "this is a circuit for doing X", we have > already surpassed the measured performance by many orders of magnitude. > > The only reason that this hardware overhang hasn't been recognized is > that people still suck at programming and because people are very > protective of their egos. If they felt inferior to a pile-O-parts, that > would make them feel really bad. So therefore they point at every > available example of AI failing and pronounce that it is because our > biology is that much awesomer. -- It's not. Even now. > > Okay, now let me hit you with a new, and much more important, concept. I > call this concept "Algorithmic Backlog" For hundreds of years now, we > have been developing mathematics and algorithms that, in many cases, are > much more effective at solving a wide variety of problems than the > general purpose but, ultimately, approximate pattern matching techniques > our brains use. The most important qualitative difference between AI > thinking and human (or upload) thinking is that the AGI can incorporate > many of the algorithmic advances we have made over the years directly. > It's not clear exactly how many such algorithms can be applied but It's > a pretty sure bet that the answer is more than none. > > It is not at all clear what the overall implications of all of these > issues are, except for one thing. AI can happen Real Soon Now. > > -- > IQ is a measure of how stupid you feel. > > Powers are not rights. > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/19999924-4a978ccc > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
