Thanks for the detailed email, and yes I'd be happy to help work on mapping information.
Do you have a link to your Upper Ontology (or work in general - looks interesting). I still want to have a look at all the current data - it is surprising that there are so many around. Thanks, Duncan On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote: > That's cute Duncan. However, you've missed our Upper Level Ontology which > is almost spot on to the true requirements to implement a unified database. > We're only missing the AI side but that's a side argument for the > rationality to implement a different/more unified base/core referential > integrity system that is more towards the unified field theory but that's > not a requirement until you want a conceptual processing environment for a > brain like processor/agent.. > > Anyway, if you're interested in mapping human information to a format that > an AI can read (or in the short term - normal automation software) I might > be interested.. We're working on a new Web (the Concept Web) separable from > the previous Web layer that is computable by machines. OWL / RDF are not > sufficient. In Web 1.0 and 2.0 we were linking documents, e.g. web > documents, files. What is different with OWL / RDF is that we also link > structured data, from relational databases, from RDF databases. But we are > still in the data level. OWL is supposed to bridge the gap between > programming and semantic relations, in practise this has never been > achieved! Web 3.0 has to be differentiated from the current web, it has to > create a distinct layer on top of the existing linked data layer with its > own referencing scheme (from WWW to GGG) that can be resolved with the > current URI scheme. This will have its own way to define and handle terms, > concepts, relations, axioms, rules, the structural components of an > ontology. > > I envision a new Web consisting of maybe 35 Web platforms (as the new Web > will be one giant database) covering local knowledge to science. Once phase > 1 is completed (destruction of the old fragmented Web), I plan to roll out > a science Web platform that directs AGI research. The system (something > like IBM waston but much more powerful) will request scientists, etc to > conduct detailed research to discover unknown facts about analyzed Systems. > The system would then conduct detailed research to discover new facts about > Systems and put these facts into the database by itself, even without > interaction with Scientists. That's the kind of thing that would get AGI > moving forward if done right. That would also lead to a revolution in > science ( > http://science.kqed.org/quest/2011/09/26/the-open-science-movement/) > where Scientists, professional and amateur would have secure profiles and > could publish ideas quickly and be on record as the first to come up with > something long before they could get a paper out for peer review. The > pressure to publish here would come not from the science greats but from > the fringe. If some group of amateurs starts using their collective brains > to start mapping out ideas in your area of expertise, you better get all of > your work out in the daylight or they will steal your thunder. Any ideas > you post to someone else' page are there on record, so your part is known > to all. In the past you could have one genius pushing our understanding > because a lot wasn't known. Today, progress is a lot more incremental and > departmental ... One guy spends 5 years and through trial and error he > makes a small discovery. It takes time before other researches integrate > his discovery into their thought and put it to use because everything is > too fragmented and fucked up. The possibilities are endless here. > > > ~Azn A > > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Duncan Murray < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks for that - I am doing a review on all the upper ontologies I can >> find relating to or which might benefit AI development and wanted include >> the OpenCog definitions. ( >> http://www.acutesoftware.com.au/aikif/ontology.html) >> >> I have written a Python script to export the MindOntology pages into a >> CSV file. >> The code is - >> https://github.com/acutesoftware/AIKIF/blob/master/AI/ontology/createMindOntology.py >> >> and the CSV file is - >> https://github.com/acutesoftware/AIKIF/blob/master/AI/ontology/mindOntology.csv >> >> Feel free to use the code, or the CSV file in OpenCog, as I would love to >> be able to contribute to this project. >> >> Cheers, >> Duncan >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> I believe I created that, way back when, directly as a set of wiki >>> pages... >>> >>> ben g >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Duncan Murray < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all! >>>> I have been reading this group for a while now and am interested in >>>> mapping human information to a format that an AI can read (or in the short >>>> term - normal automation software). >>>> >>>> I was wondering if the MindOntology ( >>>> http://wiki.opencog.org/w/MindOntology) is available as a single >>>> dataset (OWL / RDF / text), or is the source currently the set of wiki >>>> pages? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Duncan Murray >>>> [email protected] >>>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279> | >>>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ben Goertzel, PhD >>> http://goertzel.org >>> >>> "In an insane world, the sane man must appear to be insane". -- Capt. >>> James T. 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