Hi Stanley,
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Stanley Nilsen via AGI <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi PM, > > A few thoughts - > > One might try to come up with methods to generalize situations - put in > categories and sub categories and sub sub categories... This sounds > logical, but also terribly tedious. > > My alternative is to look at the world as sets of triggers. A trigger > initiates an action - maybe to assert a new fact. The new fact might then > trigger something else... > Ok, but I don't see how this removes the need for an ontology. It could be implicit or explicit, but you still have to be able to make more and more distinctions between triggers or actions. I tell the AI to book me a trip to Cambridge. What Cambridge, UK or USA? And then, to book the ticket I have to know that Cambridge is a town, and that I already know something about how to book travels into towns, and so on. You need some way to generalise, and this leads to some hierarchy of types. I bet our brain encodes a huge one. But how does it encode it? > > What is triggered depends on what our "understanding" makes of triggers. > Pretty much a Rube Goldberg contraption, but gets interesting quickly. > Understanding isn't that vague, it's whatever can be coded into rules. > So you would say that a thermostat understands temperature? Telmo. > > Beware of thinking you must invent "understanding" to build AGI. No, the > AGI needs to harvest the understanding that is all around us. > > Stan > > > > On 04/28/2014 09:11 AM, Piaget Modeler via AGI wrote: > > It's a good start, I'd say. > > ~PM > > > Subject: Re: [agi] Situations > > From: [email protected] > > Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 17:14:25 +0900 > > To: [email protected] > > > > Hello PM, > > > > here is a sketchy answer. > > What do you think? > > ---- > > As an abstract model, situational representation would have the following > > features: > > Situation is a super-class of Event and State. > > A situation is associated with time and place (location). > > A situation is associated with its participants. > > A situation is associated with attributes and relations of the > participants. > > > > In the brain, the representation of non-present situations is > > 'imagined.' Imagined representation is somehow distinguished > > from sensory (actual/present) representation. > > Representation of non-present situations should be composed of imagined > > parts. > > > > The neural representation of some situation is associated with another > > as relevant. > > If the Bayesian brain hypothesis (or similar one) is correct, > > the relevance is measured by some probabily theory. > > ---- > > > > -- AN > > > > 2014/04/28 15:35、Piaget Modeler <[email protected]> <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > How do we form situations in our mind? > > > > > > Some may be actual, hypothetical, or anticipatory. > > > > > > How would you model situations? > > > > > > Assuming that we have millions of them to choose from, how > > > do we ignore irrelevant situations and work with relevant ones? > > > > > > I have some theories, but I'd like to hear your thoughts? > > > > > > ~PM > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > AGI > > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > > RSS Feed: > https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/19999924-4a978ccc > > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/9320387-ea529a81> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/25129130-ee4f7d55> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
