Discrete of course.

Jim Bromer


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't accept the diagonal argument by the way. Since the Gödel argument
> is (I believe) based on discreet branches I think it would be possible to
> manage them with infinitely expanding number of reference markers.  And
> Wikipedia's page on Logical Positivism says, "only statements verifiable
> either logically or empirically would be *cognitively meaningful." *So I
> guess they did not absolutely rule out any potential paradoxes from being
> considered although that looks like something that they were hoping to work
> around. So I think the kind of system Gödel was working with allowed a
> logical language of analysis to use references (like expanding a token for
> a compound statement) so he was able to use the idea of a self-referential
> string in his paper.
> So the system in the paper by the MIRI guys seems to be based on a logical
> language of analysis that would rule out certain kinds of sentences if they
> tended toward not being logically evaluable. (This might be established
> using theoretical constructs.)  It is important that the evaluation process
> be able to use theoretical 'abstractions' - at least logical theories - and
> I assume that these methods are what can be used to deal with simple
> infinities and to recognize paradoxes.
>
> So anyway, even though I find the idea (if I understood it at all) to be
> really very interesting, I don't really accept the methodology that these
> guys wrote about. But so what? I don't accept the Gödel Theorem either.
>



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