I am happy to be on the fringes of science (and/or science
philosophy). I wish I made a little money at it and got to talk to
more people who were able to express constructive views about systems
directly related to AGI.  I don't have any greater respect for people
who work within 'established' groups than I do for those of us who are
more on the fringe. Unfortunately I have again become one of those
people who think they can see the issues more clearly than almost
anyone else so I just am skeptical of any group who claims to be
working on AGI or strong AI. My only redeeming personal quality is
that I clearly see myself on the fringes of understanding AGI so I am
not one of those who goes around claiming that he has got it figured
out. But when it comes down to it we have to do something that can
stand clearly as an advancement in order for us to really get over the
pretentious status jockeying that goes on. Even if our advancement is
incremental and no one else really appreciates a true advancement is
something that doesn't just appear in vaporware. It either has to be
an actual program or it has to lead directly to a program that makes
some actual advancement.
Jim Bromer


On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Archbold via AGI <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is one of those summary of AI progress articles.  The only thing
> I object to about it is this:
>
> "AI still attracts oddballs, lone wolves working in their basements 10
> hours a week hoping to solve the AI problem once and for all."
>
> The hell with 10 hours a week!!!  50 hours and you might get
> someplace.  More progress has to be made in the perception here.
> There isn't any working strong AI, AGI, so how do you single out an
> oddball?  It seems to me an oddball stands exactly the same chance as
> established....
>
> oh, I said it, the "established" word.  I always stop talking or
> reading when somebody says that.  God forbid, if AI ever becomes
> established.  I take nobody as an authority in strong AI.  Except
> maybe Aristotle.
>
> Mike A
>
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