I am happy to be on the fringes of science (and/or science philosophy). I wish I made a little money at it and got to talk to more people who were able to express constructive views about systems directly related to AGI. I don't have any greater respect for people who work within 'established' groups than I do for those of us who are more on the fringe. Unfortunately I have again become one of those people who think they can see the issues more clearly than almost anyone else so I just am skeptical of any group who claims to be working on AGI or strong AI. My only redeeming personal quality is that I clearly see myself on the fringes of understanding AGI so I am not one of those who goes around claiming that he has got it figured out. But when it comes down to it we have to do something that can stand clearly as an advancement in order for us to really get over the pretentious status jockeying that goes on. Even if our advancement is incremental and no one else really appreciates a true advancement is something that doesn't just appear in vaporware. It either has to be an actual program or it has to lead directly to a program that makes some actual advancement. Jim Bromer
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Archbold via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: > This is one of those summary of AI progress articles. The only thing > I object to about it is this: > > "AI still attracts oddballs, lone wolves working in their basements 10 > hours a week hoping to solve the AI problem once and for all." > > The hell with 10 hours a week!!! 50 hours and you might get > someplace. More progress has to be made in the perception here. > There isn't any working strong AI, AGI, so how do you single out an > oddball? It seems to me an oddball stands exactly the same chance as > established.... > > oh, I said it, the "established" word. I always stop talking or > reading when somebody says that. God forbid, if AI ever becomes > established. I take nobody as an authority in strong AI. Except > maybe Aristotle. > > Mike A > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/24379807-653794b5 > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?& > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
