Logan,

I think I see the confusion here. First, a short history lesson.

The first high level language was Algol. However, while it was quite
compilable, it was not EFFICIENTLY compilable, so the two immediate
following languages, FORTRAN and COBOL went to a LOT of work to sprinkle
impediments into the languages to improve both readability and speed.
FORTRAN focused on speed, e.g. with initial versions incorporating
FREQUENCY statements to improve optimization, and requiring aX+b formatted
subscripts. COBOL focused on readability, making it possible though
sometimes not easy to write code that was simultaneously valid COBOL and
grammatically correct English, which programming management quickly adopted
as a requirement of their programmers. Some defacto standards emerged, e.g.
naming error handling sections "Hell", and you can easily guess the
statement that was executed when an error was detected.

Later, C came along and threw both speed and readability out the window,
and programming quickly devolved into its present morass.

So, you and I come along. I see that speed-related constraints as in
FORTRAN (especially constraints that make vectorization possible) and
readability concerns like in COBOL are important to the future of
computing. However, your approach is in the C school of thought - of making
it possible to mean ANYTHING, regardless of speed and readability. There
are doubtless excellent applications for this, but I still don't see them.

Steve
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On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Logan Streondj via AGI <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 09:35:00PM -0500, Matt Mahoney via AGI wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Logan Streondj via AGI <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > The way I see we can do it, is with Speakable Programming for Every
> > > Language (SPEL).
> >
> > It's called COBOL.
> >
> > --
> > -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected]
>
> So COBOL translate English into Mandarin and Russian?
> People can chat to each other in COBOL?
> UDHR can be written in COBOL?
>
>
> COBOL is a completely different thing,
> just as Inform 7 is also natlang inspired.
> But has a much more limited domain of use.
>
> here is an example sentence of current
> alpha prototype of SPEL for contrast.
>
> eng: su this be example of word language ya
> cmn: 此 主题 字 语言 的 例 是 雅
> spa: su este ser ejemplo de idioma palabra sí
> fra: su cette être exemple de langue mot ya
> rus: а это быть пример из слово язык да
> epo: su ĉi esti ekzemplo el vorto lingvo ja
> mwak: ka .u mak kwal pi slim .i ya
>
>
> --
> Logan Streondj
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