Matt,

Just because there are no (known) non-biological AGIs doesn't mean that we
can't run a competition for the biological variety. Just set it up so that
all participants are welcomed, regardless of their technology.

Continuing...
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Matt Mahoney via AGI <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Could you explain the rules?
>

The "rules" don't yet exist and would be established by the those operating
the future competition. Of course, an AGI would view "rules" to be advisory
and perceive itself free to "violate" them in creative ways that work to
the AGI's perceived interests.

My thought was that the judge(s) would present a small number (2-3) present
social or scientific challenges in textual form, that might be reasonable
for a super-duper AGI to resolve, and see what the participating people
and/or teams come back with regarding their individual selections of a
smaller number (1-2) of those challenges.

Scoring might be for the best of the poorest answers, but I suspect that
there may be other opinions about this.

Any "ties" would be resolved in favor of the AGI that best followed the
rules.

There would probably have to be a length limit, say 10 pages total, because
of the need to explain concepts that are NOT now commonly known.

Early AGIs would be compute-bound, so several days would be allowed to
answer such world-changing questions.

Thoughts?

Steve
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On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Steve Richfield via AGI <[email protected]>
wrote:

> It seems obvious (to) me that any envisioned super duper AGI of the future
> would be easily able to win a reverse Turing competition - demonstrating
> with advanced logical solutions to difficult problems that it is a machine
> and NOT merely human.
>
> To see how such an AGI might function, and how its responses might be
> perceived by mere humans, it seems (to me) VERY interesting to see what
> might come from such a competition, even though (for now) it only includes
> teams of mere humans.
>
> I suspect that heidenbugs (correct functionality that is seen to be
> erroneous) and incorrectly perceived sinister intent would make it nearly
> impossible for mere humans to accurately judge such a competition. If so,
> this would seem to doom the future utility of AGIs.
>
> As with Winograd schemas, the test is in the doing. Every your or so I
> post looking for others interesting in operating and/or participating in a
> reverse Turing competition.
>
> Any interest?
>
> Steve
>
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