I think many people are running in the wrong direction Steve, nevertheless, it would be good to try to have some unified agreement. I'm not sure that "evolution is about NO GOALS other than to survive and dominate other forms of life." Although would agree with reproductive success rather than survival.
All things being equal the main point we seek to answer in the survey is summed up, I think by Ben G ...in his paper <https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.04361.pdf>: "So, this seemingly basic question about general principles of general intelligence pushes beyond the scope of current AGI theory and practice, cognitive science and mathematics." What is general intelligence and is that the goal of AGI? Colin On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Steve Richfield <[email protected]> wrote: > Colin, > > Universal definition of AI, especially for those who are involved in its > creation: > > AI: The code I am developing **IS** AI. Everyone else has been running in > the wrong direction. > > AI/AGI has the same goals as evolution, namely, NO GOALS other than to > survive and dominate other forms of life (like humans) in the furtherance > of that survival. > > *Steve* > ================== > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Colin Lewis <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thank you, Mike >> >> Ben G's is one of the definitions on the list. Fascinating the diversity >> of opinion in the results so far. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Colin >> >> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 3:30 AM, Mike Archbold <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Short description, an expression in vogue and is really what most >>> people use anyway: >>> >>> >>> *************************** >>> "I know AI when I see it" >>> *************************** >>> >>> Seriously, Ben G. has promoted a "Core AGI Hypothesis." >>> >>> On 7/31/17, Logan Streondj <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Good stuff, i picked intelligence is ability to achieve goals in a >>> variety >>> > of environments. I = g * e. >>> > >>> > You mentioned Goals of AGI, but there was no page about it. >>> > >>> > On July 31, 2017 9:01:58 AM EDT, Colin Lewis <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >>Dear Colleagues >>> >> >>> >>An important matter in AI and AGI remains the definition and the >>> >>goal... we >>> >>are looking to get as wide a united definition and goal as possible by >>> >>surveying practitioners. Our blurb for the invite follows below - >>> >>please >>> >>take the time to complete the survey and share if you feel it is >>> >>appropriate. >>> >> >>> >>Many thanks, Colin >>> >> >>> >>Intro and invite >>> >> >>> >>A recent survey of Artificial Intelligence (AI) educators by Michael >>> >>Wollowski, Peter Norvig and others (Wollowski et al., 2016) showed a >>> >>stark >>> >>difference of opinion about the definition of Artificial Intelligence. >>> >> >>> >>We invite you to participate in our survey "Defining (machine) >>> >>Intelligence" (https://goo.gl/hMjaE1) to gather opinions, from a cross >>> >>sector of professionals, ultimately to help create a unified message on >>> >>the >>> >>goal and definition of AI. >>> >> >>> >>Our preliminary research shows that theories of intelligence and the >>> >>goal >>> >>of AI have been the source of much confusion both within the field and >>> >>among the general public, which may in part be due to the lack of a >>> >>coherent identity and goal for AI. For example, in the opening sentence >>> >>of >>> >>Nils J. Nilsson's book (2010), The Quest for Artificial Intelligence. A >>> >>History of Ideas and Achievements, he states: “Artificial intelligence >>> >>may >>> >>lack an agreed-upon definition.” >>> >> >>> >>We hope the results of our study, which will also include a rigorous >>> >>review >>> >>of the literature, will help inform academics, researchers, and >>> >>practitioners with respect to an agreed upon definition of AI from the >>> >>widest number of practitioners and researchers. >>> >> >>> >>Furthermore, even though many researchers indicate that supporting >>> >>humanity >>> >>should be the goal of AI, misconceptions of the field abound. By >>> >>clarifying >>> >>the known definitions of intelligence and research goals of Machine >>> >>Intelligence this should help us and other AI practitioners spread a >>> >>stronger, more coherent message, to the mainstream media, policymakers, >>> >>investors, and the general public to help dispel myths about AI. >>> >> >>> >>The survey (https://goo.gl/hMjaE1) may be completed anonymously but if >>> >>you >>> >>would like to be notified when the paper is available or have your >>> >>definition of intelligence be considered for inclusion (with your name >>> >>alongside) in our coming research paper, then there is also the >>> >>opportunity >>> >>to add your name and email address. >>> >> >>> >>Please send an invitation to any homo sapiens (our human bias excludes >>> >>AI's >>> >>from participating in this survey) that you feel will be interested and >>> >>could contribute toward this important principle. >>> >> >>> >>The survey is available here: https://goo.gl/hMjaE1. >>> >> >>> >>Thank you very much for your contribution! >>> >> >>> >>Dr. Colin W. 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