Hmmm...

It seems to me that the Cell is of no use for Novamente cognition, but could
be of great use for a sense-perception front-end for Novamente

Novamente cognition would make better use of efficient MIMD parallelism,
rather than this kind of SIMD parallelism...

ben

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> Subject: Re: [agi] Cell
>
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> The published hardware description of the Cell SPUs: 128 bit vector
> engines, 128 registers each, matches the published Freescale AltiVec
> processor architecture.  I've looked over the programmer's documentation
> for that processor and believe that vector processing is of limited
> usefulness for the typical Cyc knowledge base instruction trace.  As you
> know, vector computations are well suited for fine-grained parallelism in
> which a single operation is applied simultaneously to multiple operands.
> In Cyc, there are more opportunities for large-grained
> inference parallelism as opposed to fine-grained parallelism.
>
> As the Cell programming model unfolds, it will be interesting to see just
> how much entertainment (game) AI programming will use the Cell SPUs as
> compared to using the Cell's conventional Power-derived GPU. I predict
> that no game AI algorithm will use the SPUs.  This could be verified by
> examining the marketing claims of the game development code
> libraries that
> are sure to appear in the next couple of years.
>
> Generally, I find that the Cell architecture is further evidence that
> Moore's Law performance expectations will hold for several more
> lithography nodes (process technology generations).  In particular, the
> use of chip area for multiple cores as opposed to simply more cache
> memory is a step in the right direction.  A spreadsheet I maintain
> predicts that the x86 architecture will be 256 cores per chip at the 3.76
> nanometer node, in the year 2022, which is nine lithography generations
> from now.  My assumption is that the number of cores will double with
> each lithography generation, and that Intel will continue to migrate to a
> new generation every two years.  It would suit Cyc-style AI processing
> best, if multi-core CPUs evolved in the direction of high performance
> MIMD (multiple instruction, multiple data) integer processing, as
> compared to the Cell SIMD (single instruction, multiple data) floating
> point processing.
>
> Cheers.
> -Steve
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>
> >
> > I presume everyone here is aware that the Cell architecture has been
> > officially announced. Technical details (as opposed to
> speculations gleaned
> > off patents) are yet scarce, but there's definitely some promise this
> > architecture becomes mainstream sometime within next two years.
> >
> > What are you going to do with it?
> >
> >
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