Heh... I guess it'd also be a lot easier to get rid of some of your fancy algorithms and complex math and stuff, and you could quickly use your computer to build a rapid adding machine... ;)

Imagine the possibilities!

D.

Ben Goertzel wrote:

Of course there is no way to get rid of recursion, that's very silly!!! In the language of Gregory Bateson (see his book "Mind and Nature"), you're suggesting to do away with "learning how to learn" --- which is not at all a workable idea for AGI. -- Ben

    -----Original Message-----
    *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Yan King Yin
    *Sent:* Thursday, September 08, 2005 7:20 PM
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    *Subject:* Re: [agi] Representing Thoughts

        Regarding "how to select the appropriate reasoning rules to
        apply" --- in Novamente this occurs on two levels:
1) some simple heuristics applied as a default 2) based on probabilistic rules that are learned based on
        experience (via the system's experience carrying out reasoning)
Note that there is some recursiveness here, because these
        probabilistic rules regarding which inference rules to apply
        in which context, may also be learned via INFERENCE.  But this
        leads potentially to an infinite-depth recursion of inference
        guided by rules learned by inference guided by rules learned
        by inference ... which is why one needs some simple heuristics
        at the bottom to end the recursion after a finite number of
        steps.

What if we allow the easy generation of rules (via inductive
    generalization) so that there will be a lot of rules, but entirely
    do away with recursion (ie rules will not further modify other
    rules)?  That seems to simply things a lot.  Unless you can show a
    case where a rule can only be derived from recursion but not
    directly from generalization of experience.
IMO We should keep the design of AGI to its bare minimum. yky

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