Russell Wallace wrote:
> On 6/14/06, "[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"@pop.lightlink.com <http://pop.lightlink.com>
> ** <" [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"@pop.lightlink.com 
> <http://pop.lightlink.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Russell Wallace wrote:
>      > Has anyone yet made an artificial NN or anything like one handle
>     syntax?
> 
>     Uhhh:  did you read my first post on this thread?
> 
> 
> Yes; you appear to be saying that as far as you know nobody has yet made 
> NNs or similar do syntax, but that's because they went off into the dead 
> end of back propagation, and you believe it should be possible to create 
> something like NNs that do syntax and other such things, but you haven't 
> yet implemented any such. Do I understand you correctly?

Not correct.  What I said was that I have not written it up yet.  I have
implemented enough of it to show (to my satisfaction) that it can handle
syntax.  More importantly, I have developed a formalism (more precisely a
theoretical framework) that shows how to use this NN-like system to handle
a very large array of other cognitive processes, not just syntax.

My big issue is that the system depends on laborious experimentation to
find stable configurations of local parameters that will get all these
processes to happen at once.  I believe that this has to be done
empirically, so I am constructing a development environment in order to
facilitate that empirical process.

I have hesitated to publish the formalism ahead of time because (among
other things) it depends on a methodological and philosophical approach
that is so much at odds with the status quo that I have no desire (or at
least, not much desire... see my contribution to Ben's AGIRI workshop ;-) )
to fight religious battles without the experimental data to back it up.

I say all this because it would be extremely misleading to say that I
simply "believe it should be possible to create something like NNs that do
syntax and other such things".  That makes it sound like I have nothing but
a vague feeling that it ought to work.  Getting a molecular system, like
the one I have developed, to handle syntax and yet also have the benefits
of an NN design is relatively straightforward:  the problem is doing that
whilst simultaneously getting the same mechanisms to handle 30 or 40 other
cognitive processes.

Richard
Loosemore.

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