There is a needed distinctintion that must be made here about hunger as a goal stack motivator.
We CANNOT change the hunger sensation, (short of physical manipuations, or mind-control "stuff") as it is a given sensation that comes directly from the physical body. What we can change is the placement in the goal stack, or the priority position it is given. We CAN choose to put it on the bottom of our list of goals, or remove it from teh list and try and starve ourselves to death. Our body will then continuosly send the hunger signals to us, and we must decide what how to handle that signal. So in general, the Signal is there, but the goal is not, it is under our control. James Ratcliff Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Mark Waser wrote: > > You cannot turn off hunger or pain. You cannot > > control your emotions. > > Huh? Matt, can you really not ignore hunger or pain? Are you really 100% > at the mercy of your emotions? Why must you argue with everything I say? Is this not a sensible statement? > > Since the synaptic weights cannot be altered by > > training (classical or operant conditioning) > > Who says that synaptic weights cannot be altered? And there's endless > irrefutable evidence that the sum of synaptic weights is certainly > constantly altering by the directed die-off of neurons. But not by training. You don't decide to be hungry or not, because animals that could do so were removed from the gene pool. Is this not a sensible way to program the top level goals for an AGI? -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=303 _______________________________________ James Ratcliff - http://falazar.com New Torrent Site, Has TV and Movie Downloads! http://www.falazar.com/projects/Torrents/tvtorrents_show.php --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=303