Well, there's no reason to stop at a purely utilitarian level.  A high level
of consciousness may be necessary for performing certain kinds of task, such
as imagining someone's reaction to a particular event.



On 14/01/07, Gary Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 No, and it's a damn good thing it isn't. If it was we would be sentencing
it to a mindless job with no time off, only to be disposed of when a
better model
comes out.

We only want our AI's to be a smart as necessary to accomplish their jobs
just as
our cells and organs are.

Limited conciousness or self-reflectivity may only be necessary in highly
complex systems
like computers where we may want them to recognize that they have a virus
and take
steps like searching for a digital vaccine to eliminate it without the
owner even knowing
it was there.

Even in these cases we are only giving the system conciousness over one
specific aspect
of it's being.

I would say that until we have software that can learn new free format
information as we do and
modify it's goal stack based upon that new information then we do not have
a truly concious
computer.

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*From:* Bob Mottram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Friday, January 12, 2007 9:45 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [agi] SOTA


Ah, but is a thermostat conscious ?

:-)





On 12/01/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  http://www.thermostatshop.com/
>
> Not sure what you've been Googling on but here they are.
>
> There's even one you can call on the telephone
>
> > If there's a market for this, then why can't I even buy a thermostat
> > with a timer on it to turn the temperature down at night and up in the
>
> > morning? The most basic home automation, which could have been built
> > cheaply 30 years ago, is still, if available at all, so rare that I've
>
> > never seen it.
> >
>
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