I understand the difference between a casino game and a Dutch book situation.

What I meant was that the same psychological/cognitive traits that lead humans to get screwed in casinos in simple situations, lead us to make inaccurate probability estimates that make us vulnerable to dutch books in more complex situations.

Let me try to explain this more carefully....

In any one dutch book situation, a human will assign a subjective probability to the outcome that the dutch book is about. That's fine.

But, what if there are a million complex dutch book situations, with complex interdependencies between them. The human will assign a subjective probability to each of them. But if the human does not properly understand the interdependencies, then the human will not assign the subjective probabiities to them in a consistent, coherent way. Thus, an agent that more fully understood the interdependencies better could beat the human on some dutch book situation defined as a complex Boolean combination of the initial million dutch book situations. Because the human's subjective probability for the combinational dutch book would not be consistent with his subjective probabilities for its component dutch books, given the actual interdependencies between the components, which the human is not smart enough to fully understand.

And the same thing holds for any modest-resources AGI or narrow-AI system. There are too many interdependencies in the world for a plausibly-large mind to feasibly manage and reason-on-the-basis-of them all. So we are bound to be incoherent sometimes, in assigning subjective probabilities to complex situations involving multiple interdependencies.

In order to avoid this, we are tuned to recognize certain kinds of interdependencies that were historically important to us. But, this tuning was pretty damn crude, and led our brains to evolve the various "heuristics and biases" that have been documented in the psychology literature in the last few decades. Which are exemplified e.g. in human behavior in casinos...

-- Ben G


On Feb 7, 2007, at 11:28 AM, gts wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:57:04 -0500, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The dramatic probabilistic incoherency of humans is demonstrated by human behavior in casinos.

You mean something more stringent than me by the word incoherency, then. Human betting behavior in casinos is stupid but it is not incoherent in the De Finetti sense as I understand it.

It's easy to prove incoherence: one need only show how a dutch book can be made against the allegedly incoherent person. Vulnerability to dutch books is how incoherence is defined under the theory.

Casino gamblers are stupid in so much as they place bets with unfavorable odds, but they do not by virtue of those stupid bets make themselves vulnerable to dutch books. One sometimes wins against unfavorable odds but it is never possible to beat a dutch book. In fact casinos do not even offer such betting situations.

-gts


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