On 4/15/07, Benjamin Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My points are: > > (1) AGI can be more intelligent than human in certain sense, but it > should still be understandable in principle. The AGI systems humans create will be understandable by humans in principle. Agreed. But let's call these AGI0 Then, AGI0 will create AGI1, which will be understandable by AGI0 in principle... And, AGI1 will create AGI2, which will be understandable by AGI1 in principle... etc. At what point will AGI_n be no longer understandable by humans in principle?? -- where by "understand in principle", I mean "understand in principle, given realistic bounds on the time and memory resources used to carry out this understanding"
According to my belief, the way to create AGI is to have a general theory of intelligence, which should cover the common principle under all kinds of intelligent systems, including human intelligence, computer intelligence, etc., even alien intelligence and superhuman AGI. Therefore, this theory should also cover your AGI0 to AGIn. Pei
> (2) Intelligence in AGI will continue to improve, both by human and by > AGI, but it will still take time. There is no reason to believe that > the time will be infinitely short. Not infinitely short, unless current physics is badly wrong in certain relevant respects. But if AGI1 can think 1000 times faster than a human, maybe AGI2 will be able to think 10000 times as fast, etc. Infinite rate is not necessary for the result to be incomprehensibly rapid as compared to the human brain. > > Or are you doubting that a massively superhuman intelligence would be beyond > > the scope of understanding of ordinary, unaugmented humans? > > It depends on what you mean by "understanding" --- the general > principle or concrete behaviors. > My hypothesis is that for large n, AGI_n as defined above will likely obey general principles that humans are not able to understand assuming reasonable time and memory constraints on their understanding process. -- Ben G ________________________________ This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&;
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