OK, that's fair enough. But the thing is, in the particular approach to AGI I'm taking, the compression ability of the overall AGI system at preliminary and intermediate stages of development is not a very interesting thing to look at. Even though some internal aspects of the system can be fruitfully viewed as carrying out compression...
ben g On 4/24/07, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Of course compression is not a requirement for AGI. I just think it is a useful tool for development. --- Benjamin Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For instance, if someone built a robotic dog that was as good as a real > > dog > > > at perception, > > > cognition and action, I would consider that a big step toward powerful > > AGI. > > > But dogs really > > > suck at compression. (Yeah, their brains may carry out compression > > > operations internally. > > > But, if you give a dog an explicit compression problem to solve, it will > > not > > > give a very > > > useful or impressive answer...) > > > > How will you develop and test the vision and hearing systems? Does your > > system extract the right features? If so, your reconstructed inputs > > should be > > perceptually indistinguishable (at least to a real dog). > > > > But who says the system will be able to reconstruct its inputs? > > Can a dog reconstruct its inputs? > > I don't think either of my dogs can.... I just asked my 2 year old Golden > Retriever to do so, > and she gave me a cute but quite uncomprehending look... > > What you are talking about seems to be NOT > -- AGI systems that are compressors > but rather > -- the ability of smart engineers to use the internal mechanisms of some AGI > system to make a compressor > > Then your intelligence test gets complex, and becomes something like "a > system is an AGI if a suitably smart engineer can use its internals to make > a great compressor, without having to add on too much" > > -- Ben g > > ----- > This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email > To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&;
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