Benjamin Goertzel wrote:
No, a fuzzy definition isn't pointless ... it's just fuzzy ...
If you can distinguish humans from thermostats by their DEGREE of
intelligence, what's the problem if your definition says thermostats are
SLIGHTLY intelligent
Of course, there are going to be many interesting structures and
dynamics that only characterize systems with intelligence above a
certain level...
ben g
Are you implying that there is a definition of intelligence that allows
things to be classified according to their DEGREE of intelligence, with
thermostats at one end and humans at the other?
And with *no* "obviously" unintelligent systems (like supercomplicated
optimizing programs) right up there with humans?
If you did, that would be a different matter, but the point I have tried
to make is that nobody has offered such a definition. So you are not in
any position to ".... distinguish humans from thermostats by their
DEGREE of intelligence...."
Nothing changed: the definition is still pointless.
Richard Loosemore.
On 4/25/07, * Richard Loosemore* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Benjamin Goertzel wrote:
>
> A thermostat is intelligent, in my view, it's just not **very**
> intelligent...
>
> The functions a thermostat approximately maximizes are nowhere
near as
> complex
> as the ones a human brain approximately maximizes...
Now there is the problem. I am happy enough to agree that
'intelligence' is such a nebulous concept that there is no clear
dividing line between the intelligence of a human and other kinds of
intelligence.
But if you allow this fact to be used to justify a "joke" definition
that includes thermostats, Furbys and every trivial optimization program
in the universe, then as I said at the beginning of this thread, such a
definition would be pointless.
That definition would be as practical and useful to the AGI building
community as the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation's definition of an AGI
as "Your Plastic Pal Who's Fun To Be With."
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