Benjamin Goertzel wrote:


    b) Was a definition of such broad scope that it did not even slightly
    coincide with the commonsense usage of the word "intelligent" ... for
    example, it allowed an algorithm that optimized ANYTHING WHATSOEVER to
    be have the word 'intelligent' attached to it,



But, so what if my definition allows any optimization system to have SOME DEGREE of intelligence ... the point is that the degree of intelligence is proportional
to the complexity of the optimization problems solved ... where complexity
is defined as "complexity of a function = total amount of pattern in the
function's graph" ...

I don't understand why it offends you so much that "anything whatsoever"
may be assigned some (generally miniscule) level of intelligence by
this definition ...

ben g

I thought the answer to that was obvious.

If:

1) The definition clearly says that there are different degrees of intelligence (rather just an all-or-none intelligence), and

2) The definition clearly says at least something about how to measure this degree of intelligence (rather than just handwaving about the possibility that there might be different degrees), and

3) If the 'degrees of intelligence' part of the definition looks reasonably coextensive with the commonsense meaning (DOES classify human minds as pretty intelligent, DOES NOT classify dumb optimization algorithms as highly intelligent, etc.), .....

THEN:

This definition would be acceptible as a formalization of the commonsense meaning of 'intelligence'.


Can you point to an objective definition that is clear about which things are more intelligent than others, and which does not accidentally include things that manifestly conflict with the commonsense definition (by false negatives or false positives)?

If a proposed definition fails that test, it goes squarely in my (b) category above.

And if all the proposed definitions go in either 9a) or (b) or (c), then they are all, as I said before, pointless.



Richard Loosemore.







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