Ben and Shane, I started this discussion with the hope to show people that there are actually different understandings (or call them "definitions" ) of intelligence, each with its intuitions and motivations, and they lead to different destinations and serve different purposes. These goals cannot replace each other, but since they are related, we still benefit from discussions like this. Though we won't reach a consensus soon, the discussions make our difference better understood.
As for which of the notions fit the word "intelligence" better, it is a less important issue, though it is still an issue. Though I'm not a native English speaker, this time my understanding is not necessarily wrong. At least I'm not the only one who feel uncomfortable to call a thermostat or a brute-force algorithm "intelligent" (though far below human level). Our core difference is not in our choice of word, nor just about the role "efficiency" plays in intelligence. Since the very beginning of my research I have the feeling that AI is fundamentally different from traditional computer science/technique, and this difference is in the theoretical foundation, rather than in the hardware (whether to use von Neumann architecture ...) or software (which programming language to use ...) details. This is where my definition of intelligence come from. To me, traditional computer science (CS) studies "what is the best solution to a problem if the system has SUFFICIENT knowledge and resources", and AI is about "what is the best solution to a problem if the system has INSUFFICIENT knowledge and resources". I also believe that traditional AI failed largely because it conceptually stayed too closely to CS. In your definitions, both AI and CS are doing "problem-solving", and all computer systems will be called "intelligent" (though to various degrees). I feel that in this way the most important feature of intelligence will be lost among the less important features. Again, I'm not trying to convince you, but to make myself more clear. Pei ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=231415&user_secret=fabd7936