Pei,

I don't think these distinctions between terms really matter in the final analysis - "right," "optimal" etc. What I'm assuming, however you define it, is that you are saying that AI can find one solution that is better than others under conditions of "insufficient knowledge"/uncertainty - and that your, Pei's, system is set up to find one answer for problems involving uncertainty (even the system has first to learn how to find it)..

And that's what I'm arguing against - that's what I'm saying is fundamentally flawed. There isn't one answer for such problems, there are potentially many, and you can't be sure which is best or better, or indeed very often whether any will work at atll. There isn't one way to invest for example. And any intelligence that can only handle problems closed-endedly as opposed to open-endedly, isn't a truly adaptive intelligence at all, even if it may appear that way superficially, and simply won't work.

Science certainly is caught in the contradiction I have outlined. A great number of thinkers are caught in that contradiction. As far as I can see you are too.

Under any circumstances, I still invite you to outline your approach to the investment problem I set. It is an absolutely central problem for AGI. How yours or any AGI will deal with such problems - real, real-world problems - is surely one of the most central things we should be discussing - the most important issue of all.

But, from experience, I know that you guys are very unlikely to respond when put to the test - so if you don't want to, I will not persist here.


Mike,

With insufficient knowledge and resources, a system cannot get answers
that are ABSOLUTELY correct and optimal (with respect to the problem
only), but can still get answers that are RELATIVELY correct (with
respect to available knowledge) and optimal (with respect to available
resources). BEST was used in this sense in my previous message.

In a sense, the whole field of "reasoning under uncertainty" is about
"finding certainty in handling uncertainty", and the whole field of
"decision making" is about "find the best answer when the right answer
is unknown". There is no contradiction, but different levels of
descriptions.

Pei

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