--- Joel Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 6/8/07, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The issue is this:  how can you prove a given form - whether a physical
> form
> > or form of behaviour - is disordered? How can you prove that it cannot be
> > considered as having been programmed, and there is no underlying formula
> for
> > it? (And another way of saying "disordered" is "free" as in free-form -
> and
> > NOT free-willed).
> 
> Google some stuff on compression and information theory.
> 
> Compression algorithms try and predict the probability of the next
> bit/byte/thing being in different states. If all states are equally
> likely, then entropy is maximal, and it's not possible to compress the
> observations. Of course, in such a case, the heuristic for estimating
> probabilities might not be optimal.

Kolmogorov proved that there is no optimal solution.  In general there is no
algorithm for proving that a sequence is not compressible, or that it cannot
be compressed further.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolmogorov_complexity

The enumeration of Turing machines mentioned earlier would not be a general
solution because you don't know which ones will halt.


-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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