On 6/14/07, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I would avoid deleting all the files on my hard disk, but it has nothing to do
with pain or empathy.

Let us separate the questions of pain and ethics.  There are two independent
questions.

1. What mental or computational states correspond to pain?
2. When is it ethical to cause a state of pain?

There is a gradation:
- pain as negative reinforcement
- pain as an emotion
- pain as a feeling

When you ask if something "feels pain", then you don't ask if "pain"
is adequate description of some aspect in that thing or person X, but
whether X can be attributed as feeling. And this is related to the
comlexity of X, and this complexity is related with ethics.

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