On 9/29/07, Russell Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been through the specific arguments at length on lists where
> they're on topic, let me know if you want me to dig up references.

I'd be curious to see these, and I suspect many others would, too.
(Even though they're probably from lists I am on, I haven't followed
them nearly as actively as I could've.)

> I will be more than happy to refrain on this list from further mention
> of my views on the matter - as I have done heretofore. I ask only that
> the other side extend similar courtesy.

I haven't brought up the topics here, myself, but I feel the need to
note that there has been talk about massive advertisements campaigns
for developing AGI, campaigns which, I quote,

On 9/27/07, Don Detrich - PoolDraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>However, this
> organization should take a very conservative approach and avoid over
> speculation. The objective is to portray AGI as a difficult but imminently
> doable technology. AGI is a real technology and a real business opportunity.
> All talk of Singularity, life extension, the end of humanity as we know it
> and run amok sci-fi terminators should be portrayed as the pure speculation
> and fantasy that it is. Think what you want to yourself, what investors and
> the public want is a useful and marketable technology. AGI should be
> portrayed as the new internet, circa 1995. Our objective is to create some
> interest and excitement in the general public, and most importantly,
> investors.

>From the point of view of those who believe that AGI is real danger,
any campaigns to promote the development of AGI while specificially
ignoring discussion about the potential implications are dangerously
irresponsible (and, in fact, exactly the thing we're working to stop).
Personally, I am ready to stay entirely quiet about the Singularity on
this list, since it is, indeed, off-topical - but that is only for as
long as I don't run across messages which I feel are helping foster an
atmosphere that could lead to humanity's demise.

(As a sidenote - if you really are convinced that any talk about
Singularity is religious nonsense, I don't know if I'd consider it a
courtesy for you not to bring up your views. I'd feel that it would be
more appropriate to debate the matter out, until either you or the
Singularity activists would be persuaded of the other side's point of
view. After all, this is something that people are spending large
amounts of money on (my personal donations to SIAI sum to over a 1000
USD, and are expected to only go up once I get more money) - if
they're wasting their time and money, they'd deserve to know as soon
as possible so they can be more productive with their attention.)

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Organizations worth your time:
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