On Nov 3, 2007 1:17 PM, Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isn't there a fundamental contradiction in the idea of something that > can be a "tool" and also be "intelligent"?
No. It could be just a sophisticated search engine. > What I mean is, is the word "tool" usable in this context? IMO yes. > To put it the other way around, consider the motivational system of the > best kind of AGI: it is motivated by a balanced set of desires that > include the desire to explore and learn, and empathy for the human > species. By definition, I would think, this simple cluster of desires > and empathic motivations *are* the things that "give it pleasure". In short, software (if that's still what we are talking about) needs commands and rules (not "desires" and "pleasure") to do what we want it to do. > But the thing is, you can change your mind to go and get pleasure in a > different way sometimes. For example, you could decide to transfer your > mind into the cognitive system of an artificial tiger for a week, and > during that time you would get pleasure from stalking and jumping onto > predator animals, or basking in the sun, or meeting lady tigers. After > automatically being yanked back into human mental form again at the end > of the holiday, would you say that "you" get pleasure from hunting > predators, etc? Do you get pleasure from the idea of [exploring > different sensoria]? Different activities/inputs stimulate our pleasure center (a set of brain structures) in different ways, moving us through the pleasure scope. When we learn how to fully control [and improve] our pleasure center then, I suppose, indirect stimulations through real life scenarios (as we know it today) will become less desirable & eventually not preferred. After figuring out the "measure pleasure" problem, coolest pleasure wave generators will be researched and the real life sensation will be just unable to compete with that. Regards, Jiri Jelinek ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=60782742-9c573e
