Benjamin Goertzel wrote:

To be honest, Richard, I do wonder whether a sufficiently in-depth conversation
about AGI between us would result in you changing your views about the CSP
problem in a way that would accept the possibility of Novamente-type solutions.

But, this conversation as I'm envisioning it would take dozens of hours, and would require you to first spend 100+ hours studying detailed NM materials, so this seems
unlikely to happen in the near future.

Well, I am not by any means hostile to the idea that Novamente could be built in such a way as to solve the CSP. It is all a question of methodology and flexibility, which I don't *think* is there, but I could be wrong.

I am heavily focussed on my own design at the moment, but when you talk about the need for 100+ hours of studying detailed NM materials, are you talking about publicly available documents, or proprietary information?


Richard Loosemore





-- Ben

On Nov 12, 2007 3:32 PM, Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Benjamin Goertzel wrote:
     >
     > Ed --
     >
     > Just a quick comment: Mark actually read a bunch of the proprietary,
     > NDA-required Novamente documents and looked at some source code
    (3 years
     > ago, so a lot of progress has happened since then).  Richard
    didn't, so
     > he doesn't have the same basis of knowledge to form detailed
    comments on
     > NM, that Mark does.

    This is true, but not important to my line of argument, since of course
    I believe that a problem exists (CSP), which we have discussed on a
    number of occasions, and your position is not that you have some
    proprietary, unknown-to-me solution to the problem, but rather that you
    do not really think there is a problem.

    Richard Loosemore

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