Benjamin Goertzel wrote:
Hi,


    No:  the real concept of "lack of grounding" is nothing so simple as the
    way you are using the word "grounding".

    Lack of grounding makes an AGI fall flat on its face and not work.

    I can't summarize the grounding literature in one post.  (Though, heck,
    I have actually tried to do that in the past:  didn't do any good).



FYI, I have read the symbol-grounding literature (or a lot of it), and generally found it disappointingly lacking in useful content... though I do agree with the basic point that non-linguistic grounding is extremely helpful for effective
manipulation of linguistic entities...

Ben,

As you will recall, Harnad himself got frustrated with the many people who took the term "symbol grounding" and trivialized or distorted it in various ways. One of the reasons the grounding literature is such a waste of time (and you are right: it is) is that so many people talked so much nonsense about it.

As far as I am concerned, your use of it is one of those trivial senses that Harnad complained of. (Essentially, if the system uses world input IN ANY WAY during the building of its symbols, then the system is grounded).

The effort I put into that essay yesterday will have been completely wasted if your plan is to stick to that interpretation and not discuss the deeper issue that I raised.

I really have no energy for pursuing yet another discussion about symbol grounding.

Sorry: don't mean to blow you off, but you and I both have better things to do, and I foresee a big waste of time ahead if we pursue it.


So let's just drop it?



Richard Loosemore

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