--- Gary Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Too complicate things further.
> 
> A small percentage of humans perceive pain as pleasure
> and prefer it at least in a sexual context or else 
> fetishes like sadomachism would not exist.
> 
> And they do in fact experience pain as a greater pleasure.


More properly, they have associated positive reinforcement with sensory
experience that most people find painful.  It is like when I am running a race
and willing to endure pain to pass my competitors.

Any good optimization process will trade off short and long term utility.  If
an agent is rewarded for output y given input x, it must still experiment with
output -y to see if it results in greater reward.  Evolution rewards smart
optimization processes.  It explains why people climb mountains, create
paintings, and build rockets.


-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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