Ben:My prediction is that, when robotics firms finally get around to working
on
multi-purpose robots that need to carry out multiple intersecting,
interacting
activities in messy real-world environments --- THEN they will all of a
sudden
become intensively interested in work on cognitive architecture and AGI.
Work that is of very limited interest to them now since they are working on
robots with very specialized functionalities.
What we're forgetting here - I forgot it too - is that there already IS
what I reckon a true test of robotic AGI - the ICRA Robotic Challenge -
which includes a Planetary Emergency challenge - if I remember the title -
where planetary robots must be able to deal with ANY reasonable emergency
that can crop up on a planetary camp. {Something breaks down, say - the
robot has to fix it - but it can be anything - and therefore requiring any
one of many different. ill-defined activities] The testers set the
emergency.
So I reckon roboticists ARE actually focussed on an AGI challenge - whereas,
as I've pointed out before, there is nothing comparable in pure AGI. And
with all those millions of investment bucks - I expect to see some results/
genuine progress in the not too distant future.
Another thing - which I have to find out about, & perhaps Bob knows
something about - & this goes back to our thread on the difference between
brain/computers - is that robots do appear to need to have some kind of
analog models to control movement. Or at any rate, that's my garbled
impression from cursory reading. There seems to be no way to digitally
compute/ control & coordinate the movements of complex limbs in real time -
it's all way too complex. The development of analog models/ body & world
maps etc is absolutely crucial for AGI. But pure AGI-ers, to judge from our
discussions, - seem under no pressure or hurry to develop them, (and most
don't even realise the need) - whereas roboticists may be.
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