--- Bryan Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 11 December 2007, Matt Mahoney wrote: > > --- Bryan Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Re: how much computing power is needed for ai. My worst-case > > > scenario accounts for nearly any finite computing power, via the > > > production of semiconductant silicon wafer tech. > > > > A human brain sized neural network requires about 10^15 bits of > > memory and 10^16 operations per second. The Internet already has > > enough computing power to simulate a few thousand brains. The > > Yes, but how much of that computing power is accessible to you? Probably > very little at the moment,
As you read this message, your retina is compressing 10^10 bits per second down to about 10^7. Then your visual cortex and hippocampus is cutting it down to about 10 bits per second. All that massive computing power is being used to pick out the tiny bit of useful information from all the clutter. > and even if you had the penetration of the > likes of YouTube and other massive websites, you're still only getting > a fraction of the computational power of the internet. Again, > worst-case: we have to make our own factories. Worst case is self replicating factories. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_goo > > threshold for a singularity is to surpass the collective intelligence > > of all 10^10 human brains on Earth. > > I am not so sure that the goal of making ai is the same as making a > singularity. But this is probably less relevant. It's not. The singularity is a side effect of AI. I really don't think the extinction of the human race is something we are striving for. But it may be for some, because it will be replaced with something better, for some meanings of "better". The question boils down to whether by copying your memories you become the godlike intelligence that replaces humanity. That question hinges on the existence of consciousness. Logically it does not, but belief in consciousness and fear of death is hardwired into every human brain by evolution. > > Moore's law allows you to estimate when this will happen, but keep in > > Or you can make it happen yourself. Make your own fabs. Get the computer > nodes you need. Write the software to take advantage of millions of > nodes all at once. etc. I have described how the software would work. It is well within our technology to write it. The hardware will follow. -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=75055472-b0f1d1
