Whether it conceives of a god learning by itself is really a moot point, as it
will be interacting learning and living in a human world, so it WILL be exposed
to all manner of religions and beliefs... What it makes of "faith" and the
thoughts of God at that point will be interesting.
Another difference between it and humans, is while it will want to fight for
its continued survival, it is in theory never going to die a natural death, and
as such, there is no implicit need for reproduction, or it wanting to have
other AGI's in existence. The other AGI's may be seen totally as competitors
to be beaten or removed.
James
"John G. Rose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is an AGI really going to feel pain or is it just going to be some numbers? I
guess that doesnt have a simple answer. The pain has to be engineered well for
it to REALLY understand it.
AGI behavior related to its survival, its pain is non-existence; does it care
to be non-existent? Survival must be a goal. And if survival is a goal it
always must be subservient to humans like that is really gonna happen J
John
From: Gary Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John asked >> If you took an AGI, before it went singulatarinistic[sic?] and
tortured it
. a lot, ripping into it in every conceivable hellish way, do you
think at some point it would start praying somehow? Im not talking about a
forced conversion medieval style, Im just talking hypothetically if it would
look for some god to come and save it. Perhaps delusionally it may create
something
>>
In human beings prolonged pain and suffering often trigger mystical
experiences in the brain accompanyed by profound ecstasy.
So much so that many people in both the past and present conduct
mortification of the flesh rituals and nonlethal crucifictions as a way of
doing penance and triggering such mystical experiences which are interpreted as
redemption and divine ecstasy.
It may be that this experience had evolutionary value in allowing the person
who was undergoing great pain or a vicious animal attack to receive endorphins
and serotonin which allowed him to continue to fight and live to procreate
another day or allowed him to suffer in silence in his cave instead of running
screaming into the night where he would be killed in his weakened state by
other predators.
Such a system I believe would not be a natural reaction for a intelligent AGI
and unless it were to be specifically programmed in.
I would as a benevolent creator never program my AGI to feel so much pain
that it's mind was consumed by the experience of the negative emotion.
Just as it is not necessary to torture children to teach them, it will not be
necessary to torture our AGIs.
It may be instructive though to allow the AGI to experience intense pain for
a very short period to allow it to experience what a human does when undergoing
painful or traumatic experiences as a way of instilling empathy in the AGI.
In that way seeing humans in pain in suffering would serve to motivate the
AGI to help ease the human condition.
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