Let me extend half an apology if I overstepped. I say "half" because my criticism was not really so much personal, as against a whole approach - of many AI-ers generally - which really is extraordinarily callow. There is a simply vast amount of human misery and suffering, which centres on people's difficulties in handling emotions - substance abuse of all kinds - obesity, alcoholism, heavy drugtaking, medicated drugs etc etc. Add it up and you find that virtually all of us have a substance abuse problem of some kind or other. And all of us have immense and continuous difficulties handling our emotions in a whole variety of additional ways.They do torture us. There is more to it than simply difficulty with emotions, but that's the centre. (There is also a great amount, but considerably less, of human joy and happiness etc).

To try and reduce all this to numbers is - if unintentionally - also very offensive, far far more so than any remark of mine, and does indeed involve v. false, limited ideas of emotions (and limited in terms of AGI).

P.S. I obviously hurt your (& possibly Matt's) feelings - would you be happy to put your emotions and your entire post down as a "-6" for utility, and leave it at that? :)

Mike D:  Mike T:>> It also shows a very limited understanding of emotions.

What do you hope to convey by making comments like this?....what right does that give any individual to denounce
another?



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