China is the 21st century America.  Hugo DeGaris' system is quite
interesting, and I even had a go at re-implementing some of it based
upon the code on his web site.  It's quite fun to watch the neural
networks growing and then running.



On 15/12/2007, Benjamin Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would add that the Chinese universities are extremely eager to
> recruit Western professors to lead research labs in AI and other
> areas.
>
> Hugo DeGaris relocated there a year or so ago, and is quite relieved
> to be supplied with a bunch of excellent research assistants and loads
> of computational firepower for his work on neural nets and FPGA's ...
> he'd had a rough ride for a while, what with the bankruptcy of his
> Belgian employer Starlab, and a 6-year stint at Utah State University
> where he was unable to get significant US gov't research funding...
>
> When I talked to various university administrators in Wuhan (where
> Hugo is), it was quite clear that if I wanted to relocate there, I would have
> access to an essentially unlimited number of research programmers to
> help with my AI projects.  Without needing to constantly write grant
> applications and compete for funds.
>
> Novamente LLC is in an exciting phase right now though; and my
> personal situation would make it difficult for me to relocate to China ... but
> it's interesting to know that "backup plan" is there...
>
> -- Ben G
>
> On Dec 15, 2007 5:47 AM, Gary Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Ben said
> >
> > >> That is sarcasm ... however, it's also my serious hypothesis as to why
> > the Chinese gov't doesn't mind losing their best & brightest... >>
> >
> > It may also be that China understands too that as more Chinese become
> > Americans, China will have a greater exposure and political lobby within the
> > United States.
> >
> > Look at how much political influence Israel now exerts within the United
> > States government and corporations.
> >
> > Also as with other minorities, the more exposure that Americans have to them
> > in their everyday life the less fear and distrust that will be experienced.
> >
> > As the Chinese people which I know have entered into higher end professional
> > roles in the United States they are eager to form business alliances with
> > company's back home in China.
> >
> > China is also still feeling great population pressure.
> >
> > I just returned from meeting my fiancé there and in the cities where I
> > stayed it still felt very overpopulated by my standards.
> >
> > Even though they possess excellent mass transit, people are packed in buses
> > like sardines and more people move from the countryside to the city everyday
> > to find work.
> >
> > I was only there for ten days so I did not gain a lot of understanding of
> > how they manage to keep everything running.
> >
> > But in just that short time I saw that they have the same drug,
> > homelessness, and poverty problems that we have here.
> >
> > The vast majority of people I met there were very friendly towards Americans
> > and even though I know there have to be a lot of us there, because I was not
> > in the tourist areas, I could go two or three days without seeing another
> > American.
> >
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