On 16/02/2008, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ed: I agree that computer cannot yet deal with images in all the ways humans > can, but contrary to your statement they can handle them, can reshape them, > can put them on top of one another to see if they fit, and much more as > well. It sounds like you haven't been keeping up with the state of the art > in image processing > > Ed, A further really central question occurs. You might say: "A computer > draws a > circle (or other shape)." But does it? Doesn't it just execute a > function like nr 2?
It can do. Or it can do things like AARON or the painting fool http://www.thepaintingfool.com/index.html http://www.kurzweilcyberart.com/aaron/history.html There is no end to the ways that a computer can draw a circle. > And draw in effect a series of dots? You can imagine a computer controlling a paint brush or plotter (as Aaron does) and be completely oblivious to the dots. > How does it know the difference between a > "circle" and a "series of dots/pixels" - at the physical level? I'm not sure what you are getting at here. > Isn't the only one we > can say for sure, that sees the shape/circle - you, the programmer/observer? > Aren't you actually projecting your consciousness and own internal image > processing into its non-existent mind, when you say it draws a shape, or any > form? (Richard's v. good on this sort of thing - any comments, Richard?). These seem to be doing the sorts of things you want, caricatures etc. That is not to say they are concious or the right path to AGI. Just that your requirements of visual or image creativity can be mimicked by unthinking computations ;) Will Pearson ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=95818715-a78a9b Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
