On 4/19/08, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't claim that the Novamente/OpenCog design is the **only** way ... but I 
> do
> note that the different parts are carefully designed to interoperate together
> in subtle ways, so replacing any one component w/ some standard system
> won't work.

This problem may be common to all AGI designs -- no one seems to be
able to build AGI out of standard components.  But I would strive
towards that ideal as close as possible.

> For instance, replacing PLN with some more popular but more limited
> probabilistic
> logic framework, would break a lot of other stuff...

PLN is not based on predicate logic but on term logic, right?  That
may be a source of problem.

> I would bet that with appropriate incentives all of the above
> researchers could be persuaded to collaborate on a common AI project
> -- without it degenerating into some kind of useless
> committee-think...

THAT would be highly desirable, but are we ready yet to reconcile our
differences?  I guess we can start from gradually re-using standard
components in a bottom-up manner.  Also, establishing a knowledge
interchange format.

> Let's call these approaches LIVE, for short -- Logic-incorporating,
> Integrative, Virtually Embodied

LIVE is good =)

> -- Pei Wang's approach, which is interesting but is fundamentally
> committed to a particular form of uncertain logic that no other AGI
> approach accepts

I think Pei Wang makes his own versions of abduction and induction
that, from the classical logic perspective, are unsound.  Otherwise
his approach is also LIVE.

> -- Selmer Bringsjord's approach, which is founded on the notion that
> standard predicate  logic alone is The Answer

Agreed.  Binary logic can go a long way, but ultimately is insufficient for AGI.

That said, I'm currently designing learning algorithms using binary
logic only, and plan to add fuzzy and probability later.

> OpenCog is general enough to support any approach falling within the
> LIVE category, and a number of other sorts of approaches as well
> (e.g. a variety of neural net based architectures).  But it is not
> **completely** general and doesn't aim to me ... IMO, a completely
> general AGI development
> framework is just basically, say, "C++ and Linux" ;-)

Yes, OpenCog is definitely a good move.  I hope you will allow it more
free so it can bring about more fundamental changes, to the point that
different AGI projects can interoperate. =)

YKY

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